Do any of you use pain even though you are not especially or even at all into the SM side of BDSM. How much do you use it, in what way, and too what level of pain? I ask because I can see the joy in submitting to someone who is able and will inflict pain, or the humiliation of a spanking, yet don't think I get any enjoyment out of the pain itself. How far do you go when you don't enjoy the pain itself, only what it represents?