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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkkbprmt View Post
    Do any of you use pain even though you are not especially or even at all into the SM side of BDSM. How much do you use it, in what way, and too what level of pain? I ask because I can see the joy in submitting to someone who is able and will inflict pain, or the humiliation of a spanking, yet don't think I get any enjoyment out of the pain itself. How far do you go when you don't enjoy the pain itself, only what it represents?
    Pain can be used even if you do not enjoy it in a spiritual way, to reach another level of awareness, or to set yourself free.

    To do this you have to go over your own limits - some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thir View Post
    Pain can be used even if you do not enjoy it in a spiritual way, to reach another level of awareness, or to set yourself free.

    To do this you have to go over your own limits - some.
    I agree with this. It used to be pretty typical to find floggers in the spiritual arsenal of priests, and it is sometimes still used in other traditions today.

    Since many of us go into sub-space when in a scene, I think you can understand that kind of state. However, it needs to be directed during this type of thing. Meditation helps.

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