the action of submission and what we think

[Austerus]

I agree with Oz: leading underscores in names are weird.

On the other topic in the thread, I think the person telling you that you should always be thinking submissive along with acting submissive is dead wrong. If there's virtue in submission then it comes like all virtue: by ignoring temptation. Without temptation virtue is somewhere between meaningless and impossible.

In the Bible was Jesus considered virtuous just because he was named Jesus? No, it was because the Devil tempted him with all the possible earthly powers and delights he could think of, and Jesus remained obedient to his faith in the face of it. I'm not even religious and that story still rings true to me. If there's a never a voice inside telling you to be bad then there's no victory in being good.

A good dom would, I think, encourage you to tell him about the times when you were tempted to disobey so that he could reward you for your virtue of obeying despite that temptation, and help you find ways to minimize temptation in the future.

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[magali]

If there's virtue in submission then it comes like all virtue: by ignoring temptation. Without temptation virtue is somewhere between meaningless and impossible.

Made me think a lot, thoughts that had thorns for me. Self critique. Gave bad score to myself. So, i abandoned the exercise in a quick and dirty way.

If there is one thing i am not fond of in BDSM it is this kind of dilemmas or pseudo dilemmas that appear very real, however, the moment they arise.

I do not like to resist temptation. I love to indulge to the Dominant's pressure to do or not to do X, to be or not to be Y.

This can be because temptation may only be imaginary, so that resisting it or indulging to it may not have any impact, anyway. The Dominant's pressure, being an order, or a rule, or even a a vague feeling that He is going to dislike something is something very real for a submissive and with original impact on joy or other things.