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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    The Republican Party has been taken over by the far right wing, mostly ultra-conservatives and fundamentalists, and are far less interested in doing what's right for the country than in doing what's right for them.
    The republicans are suppose to stand for small government, fiscal responsibility, and individual freedom, but unfortunately they have been taken over by neo cons who want to increase the government in areas they want, ie military and nsa/cia. The "Tea Party" are trying to to return the right to that position.

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    As seen by their past, and current, attempts to disenfranchise large portions of the population who are likely to vote a more liberal ticket, and their continuing attempts to derail the ACA (Obamacare). The numbers I've seen show that more than 59% of the American people are in favor of implementing the ACA, while less than 25% are actively against it, yet the Tea Party fiddles around, forcing some 41 votes to defund the ACA through the House, knowing that the Senate would never pass such a bill. Meanwhile, Rome burns.

    The best explanation I've heard (I believe it was on Bill Maher) for the GOP's fanaticism is that they are afraid that the ACA will actually work, and show them for the greedy, insensitive bastards that they are. My feeling has been, let the damned thing start, let it work, or not work, and fix things from there. If it does what the GOP keeps implying it will do, which I don't think is even remotely possible, they will be perfectly positioned to sweep the presidency and both sides of Congress in 2016. And may the FSM help us all if that happens!
    If the ACA could actually work then why does Obama keep postponing aspects of the bill when they are suppose to be implemented? There are serious problem with the bill let alone the fact that it increases government spending by trillions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathius View Post
    The republicans are suppose to stand for small government, fiscal responsibility, and individual freedom, but unfortunately they have been taken over by neo cons who want to increase the government in areas they want, ie military and nsa/cia. The "Tea Party" are trying to to return the right to that position.
    They CLAIM to stand for small government, but historically they are as bad, or worse, than the democrats about increasing the size, and intrusion, of government once they achieve any power.



    If the ACA could actually work then why does Obama keep postponing aspects of the bill when they are suppose to be implemented? There are serious problem with the bill let alone the fact that it increases government spending by trillions.
    If the ACA can NOT work, why don't the Republicans let it fail? That would show the whole country that they were right. But they would rather destroy the economy, destroy the country, than run the risk that Obama in particular, and Democrats in general, might actually be right. Almost the entire strategy of the Tea Party, since 2008, has been to block anything Obama attempts, without bothering to push alternatives. All they ever seem to want to actually do is return to the failed policies of Bush and Reagan.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    They CLAIM to stand for small government, but historically they are as bad, or worse, than the democrats about increasing the size, and intrusion, of government once they achieve any power.
    This is what the Tea Party caucus is trying to accomplish with in the Reps. Personally I believe that the Rep party leaders are trying to keep this from happening and will cause a party split in the next ten years.




    If the ACA can NOT work, why don't the Republicans let it fail? That would show the whole country that they were right. But they would rather destroy the economy, destroy the country, than run the risk that Obama in particular, and Democrats in general, might actually be right.
    The ACA is destroying the economy right now. So with your train of thought, I know that by shooting myself in the head I will die. So i should go ahead and shoot myself in the head and prove that I was right?! Premiums are raising, deductibles are raising, people are going from 40 hr work weeks to 29 so their company doesn't have to pay insurance. Several companies have dropped coverage on spouses. Every gov and union work are exempt from having to participate. Small businesses wont expand, because if they do they have to provide an insurance plan.

    Almost the entire strategy of the Tea Party, since 2008, has been to block anything Obama attempts, without bothering to push alternatives. All they ever seem to want to actually do is return to the failed policies of Bush and Reagan.
    The Obama Admin has done nothing but grow the size of the government, so of course the people who want small gov will try and block everything. The whole point is that gov doesn't create wealth but steal it. I didn't agree with bush or Reagan when they went on spending sprees. Bush was not a Tea Party but a neo con and a RINO.

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