One hopes that your not just going to make yet another not so vieled attack against Goreans in general leo since that would be completely blasie.

Dr Lange's (aka Norman's) philosophy may not have been presented in it's entirity until the 1970's yet it is completely applicable when making comparisons about male/female relationships and thus bdsm in previous eras since what the OP is touching on...that male/female relationships are to some degree catagorically and universally timeless despite attempts to repress them is quite relavent.

I personally think thats spot on to a larger extent than many may wish to see. I think that alltough the time period from which the OP was drawing the focus of her discussion with her students speaks for itself in literature and history. That it is not in and of itself a stand alone complex.

Humm odd that relationships between males and females have stayed much the same underneath it all throughout all of history despite the attempts of first the victorians to admonish sexual interactions publically and later militant feminists attempts to emasculate it.

Could it be that perhaps we are hardwired to a certian degree. That as with all other things in the physical world and biology ... structure really does equal function after all?

Strange how people remained basically the same despite the attempts of other people to change them from their inhierent natures.

From the reforms of Augustus being generally rejected by the public in his day to those of the Victorian era being not so discretly sidesteped right up until the present rejections of feminist attempts to manipulate it...humanity has continued right along despite all the repressions by those various groups and others.

We continue doing what nature has always intended for us to do, just the way we are designed to do it.