Burka Rage

[Ozme52]

So will this law apply to widows at funerals?
Will this law apply to hygenic masks if one goes out in public while sick?

Is a church (or mosque) a public place?

What would on say if it applied to other head coverings of a pious nature?

Laws written as this one is reportedly written, are ridiculous.

Better to write a law that protects women from being forced by another to wear a veil in public or private.

[thir]

So will this law apply to widows at funerals?
Will this law apply to hygenic masks if one goes out in public while sick?

Is a church (or mosque) a public place?

What would on say if it applied to other head coverings of a pious nature?

Laws written as this one is reportedly written, are ridiculous.

Better to write a law that protects women from being forced by another to wear a veil in public or private.

It would be good if we could have such freedom of dress, but how would you enforce such a law?

As to the other, I do understand the difficulty of the situation, where to set the limits. I can only say that I would not want a teacher with the burka so I cannot see who she is, nor a doctor, nor a dentist. I simply need to see peoples faces. But that is beside the point as such, as I can simply choose some that do not wear it.

[Thorne]

I can only say that I would not want a teacher with the burka so I cannot see who she is, nor a doctor, nor a dentist. I simply need to see peoples faces. But that is beside the point as such, as I can simply choose some that do not wear it.

Those kinds of services are, of course, up to the individual. But what about the convenience store clerk who is confronted by someone covered from head to toe. Should he be allowed to refuse service, or even admission into the store, in such an instance? What about banks? Or airports?

Yes, the intent is as a symbol of religious belief. But those symbols, and others perhaps, must be set aside when they conflict with the safety of the public. People can claim almost anything to be a symbol of religious belief. Would you be willing to allow someone to board your plane with a shotgun, just because he claimed it to be a religious symbol?

[thir]

Those kinds of services are, of course, up to the individual. But what about the convenience store clerk who is confronted by someone covered from head to toe. Should he be allowed to refuse service, or even admission into the store, in such an instance? What about banks? Or airports?

yes, it is a problem in some areas, no doubt.

Yes, the intent is as a symbol of religious belief.

I think it is more of a cultural thing. I do not think it says anywhere in the Koran that women have to wear it. And that is probably why some want to do it, as an identification marker. Because in our Western world you can choose - or at least you will not be stoned if you do not wear it. Hopefully.

[TantricSoul]

I think it is more of a cultural thing. I do not think it says anywhere in the Koran that women have to wear it. And that is probably why some want to do it, as an identification marker. Because in our Western world you can choose - or at least you will not be stoned if you do not wear it. Hopefully.

This is true, all the Koran states regarding a womans dress code is that she must dress modestly. In fact there is a verse about not covering up the identity of females ...

[33.59] O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[Thorne]

Because in our Western world you can choose - or at least you will not be stoned if you do not wear it. Hopefully.

Maybe not stoned, but....

[Ozme52]

Maybe not stoned, but....

Which is why we should target the zealots instead of eliminating choice to the other extreme.

[Thorne]

Which is why we should target the zealots instead of eliminating choice to the other extreme.

Target the zealots, absolutely! But limiting where someone could wear the burqa is not the same as eliminating its use. Just as prohibiting where someone is permitted to smoke does not prevent them from smoking in private, or in acceptable public areas. Both issues are involved with public safety.

Along these lines, I wonder what would happen if a store owner refused admittance to anyone who refused to show his, or her, face to a security camera? I imagine it would cut down on robberies, if nothing else. And would showing her face to a camera violate the Muslim proscriptions? After all, she wouldn't be directly displaying her face for all to see.