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    I have never run across the document you're referring to, but I would think that whoever wrote it was praying to whichever god she/he worships in regards to whatever religion she/he follows. It could easily be God of Christianity or a pagan god or goddess. It still doesn't make BDSM a religion.

    There are some parts of Christianity that are pretty scary if you think about it and sound a lot like D/s. A wife is commanded to submit to her husband in all things. Women are not to speak out in church and risk embarrassing their husbands with their ignorance but are told to wait and ask their husbands. It is suggested that we should go into a dark closet to pray.

    The slave versus sub debate is a whole other topic that you'd probably find plenty of answers to if you use the "search" function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming_Redhead View Post
    There are some parts of Christianity that are pretty scary if you think about it and sound a lot like D/s. A wife is commanded to submit to her husband in all things.
    Yes but the husband and wife are submitting to Christ so it's not like the husband is allowed to do wrong things. So if the husband is breaking against God wife doesn't have to obey him.

    22 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."
    28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, people have never hated their own bodies, but they feed and care for them, just as Christ does the church
    -Ephesians 5:22, 5:28-29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronika View Post
    Yes but the husband and wife are submitting to Christ so it's not like the husband is allowed to do wrong things. So if the husband is breaking against God wife doesn't have to obey him.

    22 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."
    28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, people have never hated their own bodies, but they feed and care for them, just as Christ does the church
    -Ephesians 5:22, 5:28-29
    That would be in a perfect world. I don't understand why you think the husband isn't "allowed" to do wrong things or why the wife doesn't have to obey him. *smiles* In the case of marriage to an unbeliever, each one should retain the place in life that the Lord assigned to him. If the unbeliever leaves, THEN are they not bound.

    I'm also not sure what your definition of "wrong things" is. Sex isn't wrong. Husbands and wives are to share their bodies with each other. Their bodies are not their own. It is their marital duty to please the other. It doesn't say how exactly....as much as the church would like us to believe that it's the missionary position.
    Last edited by Flaming_Redhead; 11-25-2008 at 01:45 PM. Reason: typo
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    If you're afraid, well, rise above.
    I only hurt the ones I love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming_Redhead View Post
    I'm also not sure what your definition of "wrong things" is.
    Anything against the word of Bible. Of course sex is not wrong who said that?

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    Religion is a faith, e.g. beliving in somthing blindly. A sub that has never met a master a meets them has faith that they will not hurt them. This does not make it a Religion becuse the trust and faith is earned and not blind faith.
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    I think the quote you are going for ...

    22 Wives, submit to your own husbands as to the Lord, 23 for the husband is head of the wife as also Christ is head of the church. He is the Savior of the body. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as also Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 to make her holy, cleansing her in the washing of water by the word. (Ephesians 5:22-26)

    Unless you wanted it to be paraphrased like you had it. Admittedly, it does sound a whole lot different the way you have it. I personally prefer quoting the bible the way it's written though.

    I'd mention the slave's prayer, but I think they had that one covered.






    Quote Originally Posted by Veronika View Post
    Yes but the husband and wife are submitting to Christ so it's not like the husband is allowed to do wrong things. So if the husband is breaking against God wife doesn't have to obey him.

    22 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."
    28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, people have never hated their own bodies, but they feed and care for them, just as Christ does the church
    -Ephesians 5:22, 5:28-29

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