Why Nobama

[lucy]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...rnment_vi.html

Looks like a pretty good plan to me.

However, i don't get to vote so i won't comment further. What i really hope tho is that whoever will be your next president he's capable of bringing you guys and gals closer together again. From over here in Europe it sure looks as if you could use a president that unifies and doesn't alienate Americans further from each other.

[hopperboo]

Looks like a pretty good plan to me.

We don't need a Socialist as our president. (IMHO)



But I do agree with you. It would be nice to have a president that could bring the people together. I think a lot of it has to do with the people though...extremists on both sides will not be in favor of sharing something "together." People tend to look first for the differences, and hold onto those issues, instead of the things that would bring them together.

I am not a supporter of big government OR Obama's taxing plan, his plan for Iraq, his stance (the actual voting history, not what he says) on late term abortion, etc. I could very easily deal with a democratic president if there were major points I agreed with. Obama is not that case however.

[DesertDom]

Looks like a pretty good plan to me.

However, i don't get to vote so i won't comment further. What i really hope tho is that whoever will be your next president he's capable of bringing you guys and gals closer together again. From over here in Europe it sure looks as if you could use a president that unifies and doesn't alienate Americans further from each other.

Purely on past records, McCain would be the president who could attempt brings the parties together. He has worked throughout his career for the general good, stepping across the party lines many times. I live in Arizona, his home state, and many times, he has mystified us because he appeared to support a socialist cause. In talking to him and I have does so a few times, he really tries to do what is best for the country.

Obama, well, he is the typical party hack, who says what each crowd wants to hear. It really mystifies me as to why the media does not go down the road of exposing his past and his varying stances on issues depending on what crowd he is speaking to. If the media would have done half the investigations into his past and his true stances that they did trying to find dirt on Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton probably would be running against mcCain now.

If Obama is elected and he starts to put his program in, the divisions in this country will get worse than they are now. There will eventually be no middle ground.

[mkemse]

Purely on past records, McCain would be the president who could attempt brings the parties together. He has worked throughout his career for the general good, stepping across the party lines many times. I live in Arizona, his home state, and many times, he has mystified us because he appeared to support a socialist cause. In talking to him and I have does so a few times, he really tries to do what is best for the country.

Obama, well, he is the typical party hack, who says what each crowd wants to hear. It really mystifies me as to why the media does not go down the road of exposing his past and his varying stances on issues depending on what crowd he is speaking to. If the media would have done half the investigations into his past and his true stances that they did trying to find dirt on Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton probably would be running against mcCain now.

If Obama is elected and he starts to put his program in, the divisions in this country will get worse than they are now. There will eventually be no middle ground.

If Mccain wins we have 4 more years of Bush Polucy as MCcAin has supported 95% of all Bush Policies

They can go back on Barack's life, but why bring up what happens in the 60's when he was 8 years old

We need the Candidates to use the last 3 weeks we have to STOP attacking each other to any degree and discuss the issues and their solutions, I personaly do not care who Obamam hung around with when he was 8 years old, he does not associate withthose people now, except on 1 board of directs he is on which has 5 Repulicans on it already anyway

Lets discuss the Housing Issue, Let's Discuss how us taxpayers get our $750 Billoin Dollars back after the Bail Out, Or how they plan to stock AIG for asking for money every other week then taking a $400 weekened outing

These issue concenr me far more the what Obamam did in the 60's

What impresses me, is after Barack got his College DEgree, he turned down countless "Wall Strreet" Job offer with Golden Parachutes, but chose instead to return to Chicago and work in the Inter City, haven't hear MccAin do anything like that
As far as an American Heroe, yes no question McCain is an American Heroe, but so is Bruce Jenner and Nicheal Phelps, but all in different ways
And I do not mean to discredit McCain for his Heroe for survinig being a POW, or his service to his country, but thses qualitfictions alone do not qualify you to be a President

The REality is, if you are drowing 50 yards out from the shore, and see a person standing there with a rope and life presever, you want to know if they can throw the preserver to you and not if they are a Repbulican, Democrat, White, Black, Asian ect
The REality is, when Clinton left office we HAD a $450 Billion Dollar SURRPLUS and Gas was only $1.75 a gallon,

When Bush leaves, we will have a Defecit of almost $1 TRilloin Dollars and be paying $2.50-$3.00 for a Gallong of gas,

I bring this up only because McCain supports most of the current Policies the we have now and needless to say, i can honeslty say NO I AM NOT BETTER NOW THEN I WAS 4 or even 8 YEARS GO, Mccain will simply be 4 more years of Failed Bush Policies

[DesertDom]

If Mccain wins we have 4 more years of Bush Polucy as MCcAin has supported 95% of all Bush Policies

Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.

What impresses me, is after Barack got his College DEgree, he turned down countless "Wall Strreet" Job offer with Golden Parachutes, but chose instead to return to Chicago and work in the Inter City, haven't hear MccAin do anything like that

I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.

The REality is, when Clinton left office we HAD a $450 Billion Dollar SURRPLUS and Gas was only $1.75 a gallon,

If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.

[mkemse]

Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.



I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.



If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.

ok i will give you that, but so have milloins of other in the service Mccain is/was not the only servinbg our coutry to defend our right nor was he the only POW we ever had, THIS IS IN NO WAY TO DISCREDIT HIM for what he did and went through
Bush only served in the Texas National Guard
I have no issue exceot that Mccain as President to me, is 4 more years of Bush Policies, he has recently tried to distance himself from BUsh, BIG MISTAKE he should have done that MONTHS AGO and not waited til he was a far behind in the Polls ect as he is now, distancing him now to me was nothingf more then a Politcal move based on his past support of Bush, andwithout sounded sexist which iam sure is how this will come out
I think he made a HUGE Mistake is selecting Palin,It was said he did this to attrack Clinton Followers, I seriously doubt alot of her followers would support him, since Palin and Clinton Politicaly are as differnet as summner and winter, but this is just my opnion
and i real apprciate your remarks and comments on thisthread

thank you

[mkemse]

Really hard to discuss on a cogent basis politics when tired political talking points are the only thing being used. To say that McCain is 4 more years of Bush is absurd. McCain has been known for years as going his own way, he thought about leaving the RP because of his beliefs not being mainstream Republican and he is not well thought of here in Arizona amongst conservatives because of his tendency to reach across the aisle and support non conservative issues. I am not a big fan of McCain for his tendency to compromise conservative principles, but out of the 2 choices, he is the better choice for me.



I wold tend to agree with you there about McCain not serving as a community organizer hobnobbing with the likes of Rezko (sp?), McCain was busy serving in the military defending the right to free speech in his younger days.



If you look beyond the political talking points again, you will find that most of the Clinton 'surplus' was achieved by removing money from the SS Genral Fund and was nothing more than an accounting manuever.

even if that WAS thecase, we never the less have almost a Trilloin Dollar deficit right now, the largst in UnistedStates Histiry and oil has gone from $35 a Barrel with cliton to as high as $145 with Bush now back down to about $70 no commodity in US Histry has ever gone up that much in 8 years, if so kindly tell me which one, i have heard omtheradio from Commodities Brokers who said over the last 8 years no commodity has ever gone up 150% in 8 years much less oil
Mccain may have "gone his own way" but he suupported the Iraq invasion, he supported the Tx Rebates, almost every Bill that Bush has signed he has agreed with

Actualy Ron Paul would have been a great choice

Let's have Ron Paul as a Democrat and let the Republicans have Joe Liberman, who to me anyway is a Party Traitor but that is only my opnion

thanks again for all your replies and feeback

I for one will be THRILLED after November 4 is over, just to have it over, enough is enough already

[Ragoczy]

Let's have Ron Paul as a Democrat and let the Republicans have Joe Liberman, who to me anyway is a Party Traitor but that is only my opnion

The treatment of Leiberman by the Democrat Party was despicable in my opinion.

He disagreed with the party-line on a single issue and had the moral courage to stick with his convictions, so they go after him politically. Is there actually no room for disagreement with the party-line? Is it really all-or-nothing?

I've never heard of the Republican Party doing something like that. In fact, my own Representative is a Republican and voted against the surge -- he didn't think it was a good idea. There were no political repercussions -- the Party didn't withdraw their support and throw it behind a challenger for his seat.

You know, believe it or not, I self-identified for years with the Democrat Party -- and it's crap like their treatment of Leiberman and Zel Miller that drove me away.

[Ragoczy]

Looks like a pretty good plan to me.

However, i don't get to vote so i won't comment further. What i really hope tho is that whoever will be your next president he's capable of bringing you guys and gals closer together again. From over here in Europe it sure looks as if you could use a president that unifies and doesn't alienate Americans further from each other.

That's not going to happen. Obama is so far-left that I simply can't support him -- and I voted for Bill Clinton twice. (I also think Clinton should have been charged with perjury, but that's a different issue.)

The Left in this country will simply not be satisfied with a centrist, which McCain actually is (by American standards). His history of bipartisan legislation (McCain-Feingold, -Leiberman, -Kennedy, etc.) is irrelevant to a large, vocal horde.

[mkemse]

That's not going to happen. Obama is so far-left that I simply can't support him -- and I voted for Bill Clinton twice. (I also think Clinton should have been charged with perjury, but that's a different issue.)

The Left in this country will simply not be satisfied with a centrist, which McCain actually is (by American standards). His history of bipartisan legislation (McCain-Feingold, -Leiberman, -Kennedy, etc.) is irrelevant to a large, vocal horde.

Mccain will be 4 more years of unsucceful Bush policy Obama at least brings a clean slte in, the country seems to be behind Obamam and I believe thier anger towards Bush is the reason MCcain will loose, not necessarily because MCcAn supports most of Bush's Policy, but I believe America is just tried of Republican Ruler (or lack there of) over the last 8 years, McCain's loss if he does loose is more of Bush's fault the his own and rhe RNC sais ysetrday that if he did NOT score a huge win in the last Debate, that they will strat to funnel there money to stater and local election where REubplcans are trying to hold onto seats in both houses
Seems to me The RNC is abandoning thier own choice for President, and they formal took all ad moey out of Michigan today as well as cancelling all future ads there, McCain said he wants to keep runing ads there to try and catch up, the RNC said NO