"If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly."

Hmm...*remembers 'The Cannonball Run' momentarily*..

Well said lucy, I completely agree with your take on naive concepts of the valuation of submission and dominance. In real life power is valued whilst being impotent or a pawn in any social structure is seen as disadvantage ( this is probably even more polarized if you've had little real responsibility ). It's an easy mistake to transpose the two concepts and their separation is the first step I would take in having any kind of BDSM discussion with someone who is unaware. What you do when you play is not the same as how you conduct your business.:smackbum: