Wimps?

[Alex Bragi]

Sorry if I'm pontificating, but I'd like to chirp in on that. In 90% of cases where identical twins were separated at birth and one was homosexual, the other was homosexual, also. The remaining 10% is probably even smaller than shown as any that had surpressed their sexuality would fall into that group. If homosexuality is caused by bad parenting, it's only the case a small fraction of the time.

Firstly, you’re not ‘pontificating’; you’re sharing your thoughts,views and ideas, and from my point of view that’s very welcome.

Of the few studies I have read about identical twin, it’s been suggests that where one twin is homosexual between 52% and 55% of the others twins will be gay also. That’s interesting to me, because it’s still a much higher ratio than the general population. It would be interesting to see a study done with submissives (and dominants).

If the root cause of a sexual orientation is genetic, there’s almost no chance of changing a person’s orientation. If, however, the root cause is environmental, then you would have to say there’s a significant chance that the individual could change their orientation through therapy.

Many gays and lesbians believe that their genes cause their orientation; it's normal, natural, unchosen and unchangeable. Can we assume the same of bdsmers?

As for the theory that abuse leads to bdsm, yes, it sadly has yet to be researched. It's very sad, in fact, because it would be a terribly easy topic of research. It does appear quite likely to me that abuse leads to bdsm in at least some cases. It makes perfect sense from a psychological point of view, as children's brains are designed to mold themselves into what would best please their parents - a necessary survival instinct before laws forced parents to take care of their offspring. A form of Stockholm Syndrome could also occur in adulthood, even with no previous abuse. Of course, I may just be biased since I resemble that theory.

Yes, I agree it does seem to make sense and that’s certainly something interesting to ponder, however, is bdsm truly abusive?

As for the main topic, I think it's a fading issue. The stastitical differences between men and women's brains have reduced enormously in the past 50 years, to completely nil in some effects, as men and women have more and more similar experiences in life. People are getting closer to being allowed to be individuals, to be different from one another, rather than slotted into two types that society pressures them to conform to. I don't think your male grandchildren will be forced to conform to an inflexible stereotype as males are today.

Well, women’s brains are, in comparatively bigger than men’s, on a weight for weight ratio. I do, however, agree that the misconception that men are mentally superior or more capable has certainly faded.

As for the 'two different types' - men and women being 'equal' – we just aren't are we? Never have been. Never will be. And personally, I like it that way.

Take this recent case in Germany where police had to rescue a swimming pool attendant at a hen party after the bride-to-be tried to bully him into having sex. The woman, in her mid-twenties, trapped the man in a lost property office and then tried to undress him. The bride, who was perfectly sober at the time, told police: " I just wanted to fool around one last time before the wedding". A colleague outside heard the attendant’s shouts for help and called the police. She was later released after police told her: "Promise us you’ll be a good girl and drive straight home."
(Source: Bild newspaper)

Now, just think for a moment if she had been a he. If he had been the bridegroom trying to have a little hanky-panky with the female pool attendant, would he have gotten off with a slap on the bottom and told “… be a good boy and drive straight home”? I don’t think so.

No, men and women will never be equal… Viva la différence!

And, vistana, some of the most interesting posts I've read on this forum have been 'off topic'.