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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhabbi View Post
    You judge people based on your atheism, and even believe that we who have faith are, in some way, ignorant. I do not hold this against you because I know that you do truly understand the nature of the universe. I could actually quote you scripture that describes your attitude and outlook on life.
    Atheism has no tenents so it's hard to use it as a basis to judge anybody or anything. I wouldn't call the religious ignorant since we all have access to the same information. We've all heard the arguments laid forward by all the major religions. All we know about the religious is that either, somewhere along the line logic failed or that the faith has been updated so much as to make it atheist, (Albert Einsteins religiousity being a prime example). I can imagine a variety of different reasons for this. But we've discussed this so much here that I won't dwell on it.

    edit: here's an article in the NY times about research in trying to understand why so many people are religious in spite of the evidence. His theory is that our brains have evolved to believe in the supernatural in spite of overwhelming evidence. It's like, we will be religious in some way no matter what. No matter what your stance is, it's an interesting read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomOfSweden View Post
    here's an article in the NY times about research in trying to understand why so many people are religious in spite of the evidence. His theory is that our brains have evolved to believe in the supernatural in spite of overwhelming evidence. It's like, we will be religious in some way no matter what. No matter what your stance is, it's an interesting read.

    You are right, it is an interesting read. I find it interesting how few people have actually read Darwin and what he proposed in his works.

    As for us evolving a need for religion, why?

    Evolution supposedly selects for survival traits, what survival trait is there that supports a need to believe in religion? Perhaps it is the actual existance of God?

    As for the evidence that proves there is no G/god, perhaps you ought to examine it, you might be surprised at the acarcity of it in light of current scientific knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhabbi View Post
    You are right, it is an interesting read. I find it interesting how few people have actually read Darwin and what he proposed in his works.

    As for us evolving a need for religion, why?

    Evolution supposedly selects for survival traits, what survival trait is there that supports a need to believe in religion?
    Veru fascinating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhabbi View Post
    Perhaps it is the actual existance of God?
    But since this trait aparently doesn't defrinciate between religions, the important thing is not which religion, but a religion, any. Which means that if you believe this theory and still believe in christianity, you are wrong. Or at least extremly likely to be wrong, (1 chance in an infinate to be correct). I hope the logic wasn't hard to follow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhabbi View Post
    As for the evidence that proves there is no G/god, perhaps you ought to examine it, you might be surprised at the acarcity of it in light of current scientific knowledge.
    We've got another thread for this where I clean the floor with the religious theories in so many ways, ("lest we forget") I'll just refer to that one. I don't want to become guilty of thread jacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhabbi View Post
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    As for us evolving a need for religion, why?

    Evolution supposedly selects for survival traits, what survival trait is there that supports a need to believe in religion? Perhaps it is the actual existance of God?

    As for the evidence that proves there is no G/god, perhaps you ought to examine it, you might be surprised at the acarcity of it in light of current scientific knowledge.
    Well, one interesting answer to the survival value of religion (except for the common moral values of religions which are good for a society with a common religion), is that one of the greatest advantages of the human brain is our quest for knowledge and answer to questions like, "what?", "where?", and above all "why?" This is the basis of science and thus civilisation, but it is also the basis of religious belief. If we cannot say why the world exist, we try to figure out answers anyway. Those answers become a religion.

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