Spanking and caning

Jennifer-Nylon · 11-30-2002

Does anyone else enjoy it

I mean receiving rather than giving

**Finding_Fantasy** · 11-30-2002

You know, it's kind of funny. I like spanking but only with certain things. I love it with the hand but the paddle.... I don't know. I guess I see the paddle as a disiplinary tool and don't like the 'mental' feel of it. Just about anything else, I am good with.

As for caning, I have never had the opportunity to have one used on me. Frankly, they scare the hell out of me. The thought of them that is. I have heard horror stories about caning and some damage that can be caused if it isn't used properly. I don't know if that is a myth or if the thoughts are warranted.

On the other hand, give me a crop, a leather flogger, or a coiled rope (used as a flogger) and I am a happy camper

Jennifer-Nylon · 12-02-2002

You are so right. I fear the cane and I also don't enjoy punishment spankings. I had one

it was so awful. Yet if I receive dthe same spanking when it was a 'good' spanking, I would have loved it.

Canes are scary. He says he will try one and I'm worried. I have enjoyed His belt, it was hard, sharp and unforgiving. Perfect!

**BDSM_Tourguide** · 12-02-2002

Finding_Fantasy is in no way a pain slut, so spanking and caning has a different meaning for her than it does for people who are more masochistic than she is. To masochists, spankings are a turn-on and basically foreplay.

Many sadists will not use spankings as punishments at all, knowing very well that is exactly what their masochistic little toy wants from them. Instead, they will think of painless alternative, usually involving humiliation (standing in a corner), discipline (the taking away of a privilege) or an assignment (writing "I have been a bad little slut" 200 times by hand).

**Finding_Fantasy** · 12-02-2002

Well you are definitely right there. I am not at all a pain slut. Being my Master you should know that

I like some pain but certain types. Like I didn't mind the candle wax you did the other night, nor spanking with the hand. It's just that God aweful paddle you have.

Venus · 12-02-2002

mmmmmm.....candle wax. I love that especially when candle wax is followed by ice.

**nikki** · 12-03-2002

i like both! but the cane is a pretty scary thing...in the wrong hands...it has to be a fairly 'mild' caning...anything more is just too intense...spanking is nice because it has the intimacy you only get with flesh-on-flesh contact...

Candlewax then ice....mmmm....*quickly adds to 'things to do this month' list*....

nikki

**BDSM_Tourguide** · 12-03-2002

Isn't that sort of defeating the purpose? Canings are supposed to be extreme and intense. They leave marks and are designed to do so. The cane is also designed to inflict a tremendous amount of pain. It's used in many eastern cultures as a way of punishment, not pleasure.

I recommend that, if you don't like a full-on caning, buy a riding crop, a leather slapper, or at the very least a stiff leather flogger.

It is also my experience, and I have little with caning, that canes do not fully express the emotion and the mood of the person wielding it, unless that person happens to be angry or overtly sadistic. It is so much easier to express oneself with a flogger, a crop, a paddle or the palm of one's hand. A light brushing of the skin can cause more of a reaction sometimes than a hard swat with a stinging cane.

However, this is just my view. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion.

Now, about candle wax and ice. Got nothing at all against either. 'Nuff said.

**nikki** · 12-04-2002

Yes, but theres extreme and extreme...the cane makes lovely marks....but if its used really hard it breaks the skin and just makes a horrible, bloody mess..my personal opinion, i know many would feel a bloody mess is anything but horrible...

Riding crops are very, very nice...

nikki

**Finding_Fantasy** · 12-07-2002

See? Just that whole "breaking the skin" comment makes me shiver...and not with wanting either. I would refer items used on me that are a little less...well dangerous. Call me crazy, but I have enough battle scars on me without having them come from S & M activities. (I'm a klutz you see)

As for candle wax then ice. I can't say that I have ever had that done. Granted, the last time I had candle wax on me, there was so much of it and it was so thick that I doubt that I would have felt it.

However, I have had ice inserted into me and then had sex that way. It was...interesting to say the least. Very cold at first *lol* (like that isn't a "No Duh" statement) But then I kinda went numb but I could still feel everything. It was really quite different.

Venus · 12-21-2002

Inserting ice into the ass or the pussy for long perios of time can be dangerous, it can do a lot of damage to reproductive organs and others. So be careful with that.

**Finding_Fantasy** · 12-21-2002

for tha davice.

Yes, we were careful as we are in everything else. Though some how I don't think it did any damage to my reproductive organs *pats tummy*

**bunnyrabbit48** · 12-24-2002

Originally posted by nikki
Yes, but theres extreme and extreme...the cane makes lovely marks....but if its used really hard it breaks the skin and just makes a horrible, bloody mess..my personal opinion, i know many would feel a bloody mess is anything but horrible...
Riding crops are very, very nice...

nikki

I thought you people in Britain loves the cane. In fact, I'm almost certain is a British who invented the cane. Wasn't it a British rule that they administrate the cane in sets of 6 per side?

IMO, cane is a highlighting tool that you use in the end, it is meant to make the slave not to forget how painful the session is. If it breaks the skin, and causes a raised welt, all you need is to make sure you don't whip/spank/impact that very same spot again in the rest of the session and you'll be fine. If you do, you'll draw blood and that gets into the possible germs issue and it will spoil the atmosphere.

**BDSM_Tourguide** · 12-24-2002

I think that's a rather irresponsible attitude to have about caning. I don't think anyone needs reminding of how painful a session can be, especially if you have been using pain as your primary motivator throughout the session.

There's also a lot more to think about than just "not impacting the same spot again." Anything that raises welts and/or leaves a lasting mark and/or breaks the skin needs to be dealt with with extra care. Ice, creams and maybe even bandages need to be applied and the affected area needs to be loked after carefully until it heals. Also, no other sessions should take place, at least no other activity should take place in the wounded area until it has had time to amply heal.

One reason I don't deal with canes and switches much is because of their lasting effects. The potential to seriously wound someone is not a risk I am willing to take. If I did use either of these tools, it would be lightly.

**himind** · 07-03-2005

Originally Posted by BDSM_Tourguide

I think that's a rather irresponsible attitude to have about caning. I don't think anyone needs reminding of how painful a session can be, especially if you have been using pain as your primary motivator throughout the session.

There's also a lot more to think about than just "not impacting the same spot again." Anything that raises welts and/or leaves a lasting mark and/or breaks the skin needs to be dealt with with extra care. Ice, creams and maybe even bandages need to be applied and the affected area needs to be loked after carefully until it heals. Also, no other sessions should take place, at least no other activity should take place in the wounded area until it has had time to amply heal.

One reason I don't deal with canes and switches much is because of their lasting effects. The potential to seriously wound someone is not a risk I am willing to take. If I did use either of these tools, it would be lightly.

I agree.The cane can be a vicious and dangerous tool in the wrong hands. I personally prefer the hand or the hairbrush for this purpose.There's no danger of breaking the skin and it leaves a nice even pink finish

**bearbeast** · 07-08-2005

please do not worry I may have used the wrong word, my mistress take great care of me, and will only addmister it by watching my body laungue, and my hand jesters, she is a careful Mistress

in my childhood I gor many whippings from my foster mother :yuck: , and she didn't care how they landed. or what they left. but thats then this is now, and i'm very happy,

so bye bye for now.

**bunnyrabbit48** · 12-24-2002

Yeah, needless to say, the extra care is needed after the session.

But if you don't want to go to that extreme, there is an intermediate ground: just welts but w/o breaking the skin. It will just be a raised welt, no blood.

The breaking of the skin (and I don't like blood sport neither), only occurs:
-) repeatedly on the same spot
-) the cane is wide enough or the force is strong enough

The positive side is, when a cane is applied on a sub's ass, it takes say 30 sec., for the pain to grow from the time of impact, the feeling of that "growing" pain is very erotic, as it hurts more from the time of impact to the time when you feel the full extent of the pain.

Paddles, riding crops, doesn't give you that effect. The only way to find out is to try it once and you'll know what I mean.

**bearbeast** · 07-08-2005

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**Finding_Fantasy** · 12-24-2002

I think, from a submissive's point of view, that if something were to break the skin, it shouldn't wait utnil after the session until treated. I know I would appreciate being looked after if I were bleeding from some part of my body. Scene be damned, ruining the moment be damned as well, if I'n bleeding, fix it. I don't want to risk having more damage being done.

Now you say that if it does happen, to avoid striking that particuìar area again. But, in the heat of the moment, sometimes one's aim is not as good as it may normally be. I don't want to risk that and I know BDSM_Tourguide (my Master in crime) would feel the same. There have been amny times where we have stopped a scene because something has happened, where I got hurt in some way. Yes, it kills the mood, but I would rather kill the mood than risk further damage.

**bunnyrabbit48** · 12-25-2002

But as you have read my first post, I mention the cane should be used in the end of the scene as a highlight. And usually it is a few strokes anyway. So regardless, one way or the other, with or without break the skin, the scene would end.

**Finding_Fantasy** · 12-25-2002

Well, I guess that caning is not really my thing. Granted I am not a very big masochist either. I like mild pain, though nothing to serious. I would be very hesitant to get around someone that had such a keen idea of using something on me that I am really, quite frankly, afraid of. Canes would probably be one of my stronger limits.

**bunnyrabbit48** · 12-25-2002

I'm trying to remember what it was like when I first started. I guess there may be a time that a flogger or a paddle is enough but now it is just a warm up tool for me. From that point on, riding crop would be consider painful to me, but a cane is needed for me to remember that session.

However, having said that, I've seen a couple in which the top, Eric uses nothing but a very long single tail on his slave Kelly. From warm up all the way to the end of the session, nothing but single tail. To me, that's too much work for a top, as there is easier warm up tool, but surely his slave like single tail, even on warm up. I guess if it floats her boat...

**agp_millie** · 12-27-2002

my Ex. (years ago) enjoyed using cane, whips and other swishy items on my body. Two things from this, 1st. it took several years for the scars to heal and 2nd. i learned to rapidly HATE them. Altho' i enjoy BDSM and being sexually dominated, anyone mentions caning or whipping, i go back in my mind to the nights i cried myself to sleep, immaterial whether it was a bed, or stall or, even a cage. .. the blows and blood put me, forever off that, apparent, sexual fantasy made real.

However, i agree with the writers that say that if a couple can MUTUALLY enjoy sexual release thru' so called 'abnormal' release. Then, so be it.
i, for one, have great pleasure in being forced to sexually do as i'm instructed, love bondage, easily soak two towels if my udders are bound tight, (for Science) [smile] my pussy slapped, as well as my udders and take on almost anything that is thrust inside me and frequently soak with juices, but at the mention or smell, of a cane/whip, will dry up completely.
The moral, i think, is to do what you BOTH enjoy and not take over as the so called 'We're God's gift to women' syndrome.

Spanking is erotic, still is, but i'm always nervous that if i admit to spanks it may lead to worse, as it once did .. for 3.5 yrs.
xxx
My favourite today, having a lovely, pc ignorant, huge teddy bear of a hubby, that is so gentle to me, but almost killed a guy that got carried away a few years ago, is Fantasy Cyber and so anyone that could use an 'agp' (assistant guinea pig' in the Sexperimental Farm Laboratory, for Science and good of all Animalkind, (blush) feel free (Doctor) to E.mail me and/or leave a suitable message.
Having had a wealth of sexually submissive experience, i FEEL the part and can soak two towels, when cybering a clever, mature minded, imaginative guy (very few and far between) that wants to use me in His Lab. for His Research Trials and not want to try anthing for real.

xxxx

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**BDSM_Tourguide** · 12-27-2002

Originally posted by bunnyrabbit48
I'm trying to remember what it was like when I first started. I guess there may be a time that a flogger or a paddle is enough but now it is just a warm up tool for me. From that point on, riding crop would be consider painful to me, but a cane is needed for me to remember that session.

I would think that if one cannot remember a given session unless a specific tool is used, then perhaps one should not be looking at the tools but the person using them to be more memorable.

**BDSM_Tourguide** · 12-27-2002

Originally posted by agp_millie
The moral, i think, is to do what you BOTH enjoy and not take over as the so called 'We're God's gift to women' syndrome.

I agree entirely. I would hope that a dominant would have at least a modicum of respect enough for his submissive to make sure she at least enjoys herself.

I would even venture to say that I would hope a master would make sure his slave is happy with the treatment she is given, lest the slave leave to find better bedfellows.

As I have said, I have used the cane once or twice, but never hard enough to leave anything more than a red mark. I just don't believe in inflicting wounds (literally) on anyone under my dominance. That includes swollen welts, broken skin or otherwise.

If I must use something to spank or whip, it will either be a paddle, flogger, crop or my hand. Besides, the funnest forms of torture are things you can do without even touching your submissive. Too many people forget that the brain is the best sex toy.

Jennifer-Nylon · 12-28-2002

Over the knee, hands held tightly behind my back, skirt up, knickers down. Hmmmmm

But that's just me.

**bunnyrabbit48** · 12-30-2002

Originally posted by Jennifer-Nylon
Over the knee, hands held tightly behind my back, skirt up, knickers down.

I really like this position. More so that the other position. My mistress' thigh is big, and she likes sandwich me between her thighs. So she bent me over her lap, then she wrap her right leg on top of me, that way I can't move at all, and she squeeze me in between.

It's the tight contact and the pressure of her thighs squeezing me that gives me a hard on. Then the whipping comes.

write4jetc · 01-01-2003

As a spanker, I have to agree that the over the knee hand spanking is the best! I love to see those pale white cheeks gradually take on some colour; when they are a nice rosy red, and I can feel the heat rising (and the wetness running!) - ummm, it's great!
In case of extreme provocation, I have been known to use a slipper, but only in short bursts. As much as she likes being punished, I like the feel of my hand on her skin, and being able to stop now and then to run my fingers up and down her crack, coating them with her moisture, and making her lick them clean ...
and NOT allowing her to come! Oh god, where is she ... I'll be right back

Okay, where was I? Oh yeah - now she wants me to use a leather belt, but of course, since she asked, I won't do it (hee,hee,hee). I will sooner or later, but not when she is expecting it. I have to admit, most of our play is built on psychology rather than physical punishment; in her professional role she is such a control freak that it's wonderful to take that away from her, a layer at a time, until she is begging for what she wants.
And the ice & wax thing? We use ice, then wax, then ice.
Looking forward to getting to know you all,
(Mistress)Spanker and her sub, Spankee

AmandasSpankee · 01-02-2003

Originally posted by Jennifer-Nylon
Over the knee, hands held tightly behind my back, skirt up, knickers down. Hmmmmm

But that's just me.

Oh, no believe me, that's not just you

This is my favourite position, too. I know that I have her full attention, she is doing nothing but taking care of me. I know that she is doing what she thinks is best for me, and that when she is finished, I will be happy. As the feeling builds up in the pit of my stomach, and the need grows - is there any better feeling?

By the way, I'm so happy to see that my rosy butt has already been discussed here - nice to be so appreciated!

write4jetc · 01-02-2003

Nice try, brat, but I recognize someone trying to kiss my butt. Your punishment stands!

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