Originally posted by vanillaslave
I am just a girl... who does not back down to the stupidity of the Admin/mods.
Note: I am stupid and you are brave.

TG is a bit full of himself, clearly it is his first Admin postition and he is young and learning his way. He has also never been to a board with a HISTORY... FUrther the board holds 20 pages of posts and the charges t the board owner are the same whether you choose to delete them or not UNLESS people actually view the pages.. so Your arguement is moot. Charges to Jinn are based on VIEWS.
Not really for me, but this was on topic. As for TG being a bit full of himself... I don't know if that has much to do with his reasons for trimming old threads or not.

and while i am talking to TG, you bait the holy fuck out of people and then your wife comes in and say "let's not call anyone names" this can be cocumented when you and your wife called switches flakes and then berated them for flaming you.
That incident... is why I became a Moderator. Which I have explained to you, to others in chat, but not to the forum in general (or to TG). It's a put up or shut up thing. I saw a problem with the way a conflict was handled in a chat room and I decided to see if I could help out instead of yelling or getting 'satisfied' with a rude comment.

The minute I started learning my ropes, I watched people trying to manipulate me into basically hating TG. I don't. We have very different ways of handling a crisis, but I think we both are actively trying to help the community out, and it's funny how much I realize we're alike, despite our differing personalities. If I saw TG doing something I didn't like, or posting something nasty in Community, I would act on it. And I am damn well sure he'd do the same for me. And we would resolve it. And then we'd go back to talking on topic again. That's how working forums function.

As for Finding Fantasy... she's not the person who put me on to your post. Someone flamed on your thread, and I acted with the same hand that I did in your case-- this time deleting Faibhar's post for topic drift. :: shurg :: In all of this you have yet to tell me what you would have preferred, or how I could have handled the matter differently. I'm beginning to suspect that it's not really even at issue for you. Which leaves me wondering why you bristle every time TG or I make a move.

I am neither for you nor against you. I just keep the sidewalks clean here, lady.

THEN there is this forum where you ask for suggestions and comments.. I have never seen a suggestion or comment implemented. And i am viewing historically.
So... stop making them.

We folks who want stuff will keep trying on the hopes that Jinn will someday cave in and give us these neat little extras.

For the time being, those who want it are enjoying a chat room. Non official, of course, but that's how things generally get done in the world-- people do it themselves, or take any kind of hand in their own life's progress. But you're correct-- I don't think Jinn has changed the forum much since it first began.

THUS my very real suggestion in deleting this entire area. IF you want to lay down the law, and clearly you do, then do so, but don't lay down the law and then open a comments and suggestions area.
We didn't 'lay down the law and then ask for suggestions'.

This area has been around as along as the forum. JINN is asking for suggestions. You're being dramatic, accusing us of a hipocracy that is beyond our capability. The irony is maddening.

CLEARLY you don't want comments or suggestions or else you can only accept ones that your wife approves of...
Can you hear yourself? Do you ever stop and read these things before you send them?

If you have a single Comment or Suggestion that can be implemented by myself or TG... well, I can't speak for TG, but I would weigh it out, and do the only other thing I can...

Ask Jinn.

I WOULD have kept my mouth shut on ALL of this had not Gary WILCOX decided to FIRST IM me on my private account ( which i had given him)....
:: sigh:: You're not going anywhere, Vanilla. I don't really want you to leave; I just don't want this little community left open to unproductive hate mail. But letters like these leave me wishing you would just go.

I triple-dog-dare you not to respond to any further posts. Not to fire up and respond to this letter in an angry, passionate fit.

That's why the forum needs moderators.... this stuff gets out of hand... especially when people forget that in civil discourse, there are rules that must be obeyed.

You've shared a few secrets of our budding friendship with the rest of the forum... fine. I'll leave your secrets safe. But if a friendship means having to deal with this kind of rant... undisciplined, alone, and unsolvent as I am, I can find much better friends. Friends who actually give a damn about my feelings.

Friends who wouldn't sell me out on a difference of opinion.

and GW tried to counsel me into being nicer...
That was a mistake. The CoC is all I should be working with here. That was thinking like a friend; wanting you to have more friends, too. Thinking you wanted more friends.

Sometimes, these things... they just aren't meant to be.

and when i asked what and whom he was like " i don't want to say"
what kind of passive agressive shit is that? I HAD LEFT!
No you hadn't. :: Points to the post that you made. :: And you're reading this now.. you still haven't left, Vanilla.

The reason why I didn't tell you who made the off topic post? It doesn't serve any purpose but to tell you who to be mad at. Because everyone's fallible, and the last thing I wanted to do was reveal when someone has run afoul of the CoC. I will always keep those matters confidential, as long as I'm wearing the tin star. Which, right now, doesn't feel at all comfortable.

Faibhar outed himself in this thread. I responded. Vanilla, this isn't even the thread at issue-- how can you pretend that you left?

You're still reading. Be dramatic if you want, but be honest that you hadn't left, and still haven't left. Don't blame me for your coming back, Vanilla. You made the choice.

if we can't disgree and argue about stuff? who will post here?

TG, GW, and about 10 other people.

do i like faibair? fuck no. but i will defend his right not to be fucked with by the mods/admins and decide to leave anyway.
Earlier in this post you talked about the private IM we had. If you recall, when I told you I had edited out an off topic comment, you immediately you asked who it was that had made the comment, and then when I said I didn't want to tell you that, you said you were out of the forum anyway.

You could have mentioned that you would have rather I left the thread alone and let him flame. But you didn't.

You basically stopped talking to me after that, as I recall.

So that is my story of my brief visit to this board. apparently everyone fights and the admin and mod can say whatever the fuck they want... when not deleting or accidently fucking up the picture thread or pontificating their little fingers off about THEIR OPINION... they swoop down and moderate everyone elses opinion..

lovely.

nice open community ya got here.

and finally i would not have said a word until GW decided to post personal information that i told him about not posting here. to this thread.
Please reread it, Vanilla, since you're here anyway. The following is the ONLY REFERENCE to anything personal between you and I mentioned in my earlier response:

Interstingly, both you and VanillaSlave have decided to stop posting in response to this.

If there was something revealed in there you didn't want me to... like you not coming back to the forum... then I am sincerely sorry. I can admit that was a mistake, and I regret repeating anything about that.