all I was saying is it need not involve pain
Yes, I absolutely heard you denuseri and thank you so much for confirmation as I know that you know how important that is to me. I very much appreciate the kindness that you have extended to me while I have been here....it makes me feel welcome.

LovesKink:
i ask is this spiritual or is it close to death that we awake to such euphoria?

Super interesting question. Who can ever know. I suppose it is just our individual interpretations that become our truths.