Nikki, interesting and valid points, but then what’s the attraction for violence in entertainment generally then? And why can you watch simulated murder at 8.30 every evening on tv, but have to wait until after 10.30 for sex? (On tv that is.) I’m not saying you’re wrong because you’re not, I’m just interested in your views. We really do live in a crazy world don’t we?

e.e., when you reply to something, you don’t muck around do you? Obviously you’re very well versed in the subject, far more so than I. Actually it may interest you to know, if you don’t already, that around one in eight people have a strong tendency towards bdsm, about the same ratio as homosexuality.

Fox, I couldn’t agree more, some people do have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality for sure. Others just seem to convince themselves they are doing the right thing and therefore feel no compunction - I think you could refer to e.e. if you want a more in-depth discussion on that one.

Woodsman’sgame, I never quite looked at sex like that before, until you mentioned it, but yes, I guess it is a rather violent act towards women. On a lighter note, do you know that some psychologist believe that a man’s tie is symbolic of a collar and leash? Don’t you just love that!