He is a nice looking man.

Perhaps because it is not something you understand and you should not be so judgemental about things that you do not understand.

You mentioned a man could "rise up and kick the stuffing out of his master/mistriss." Well, you know what? So could I. I took martial arts and, if I really wanted to, could beat the snot out people a lot bigger than myself. But I don't. Why? Because I am submissive.

While it is true some men may do it just to get laid but the vasy majority don't. I know plenty of men who are submissives. It takes a lot of power of the mind and heart to be a submissive and I commend any man that has the courgae to admitt that he is submissive and has the strength to do it.

Strength of a man's body is nothing compared to the mins and heart of a man who is able to submitt.

Yoiur opinions are always welcome, Mobius, but please to not critisize what you don't understand. Calling these men sissies and grungy is not right and goes beyond logical opinions... it's just being plain old mean!