Not so long ago I had a conversation with a gentleman on these topics and, with all due respect Mobius, I have to agree for the most part with everwilling.

The limits and borders that our society has set up, do have some validity if we are discussing the psychological development of a child’s mind. But at the same time how can you justify the relaxed manner and acceptance of our North American society towards daily occurrence of minors (11-13 year old) having oral sex in school busses and empty classrooms and at the same time label the consensual sex between 16 and 21 year old a Statutory rape? I am not totally convinced that sex with toddlers or anything under 10 would be OK. I believe that human being needs time of “innocence” to be able to develop properly.

But why would you condemn society that “helps” development (body modification) by not so natural means while you have anorexic and bulimic pre-teenage girls in your neighborhood. You have to realize that just as it is normal to pierce ears on few-months-old girl here, it could be normal to pierce outer labial lips and start stretching them as soon as girl starts walking.

It is time/age and society that dictates what is acceptable.