Quote Originally Posted by ozme52
Yeah! That one's full of subtleties. I, for example, would never tell a sub that they don't know what they're doing, but will readily say they're untrained... to my needs or desires.

The words "you need more training" regardless of their experience, is part of the process of establishing their submission to, specifically, me.

One good example is finding some position I particulary like... and making sure the sub can attain and hold that position for extended periods of time.

I guess, Aesop, the point of your comment is about the use of the words "doing it wrong." I'm with you there. No need to put up with that.
Exactly. Telling a submissive they're untrained to your needs is one thing and as long as you're expressing that it's an inter-personal issue I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It's that blanket "you're untrained" statement without any clarification of what or how or why that I have a problem with. It's a put down really and nothing else.