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    The problem here is and always will be that there is a continuum,largely without obvious boundaries, between (and in no particular order, well sort of,) Master/Mistress, Dom/me, Top, S/switch, bottom, sub, and slave.

    Where each lies in describing a portion of that continuum and where the boundaries between them are is a matter of unending debate. No one will ever be totally happy with another's definitions unless they happen to fall exactly within the same boundaries.

    Russell, I was certainly one of the naysayers back then... your definitions left me out. Yet we agree on so many other things.

    delia, to say a slave is owned but a sub is not... somehow leaves out a host of subs I've talked to... including my own.

    Language is too pliable. "Bird" You know exactly what I mean... certainly a horse is not a bird... nor is a snake... You know it has feathers, two legs and two wings. But birds lay eggs like (most) snakes. But birds are warm blooded like (most?) mammals. And what is a platypus?

    I think trying to define and describe roles with single words will never entirely work within the lifestyle. The moment you do... the exceptions will overwhelm you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post
    delia, to say a slave is owned but a sub is not... somehow leaves out a host of subs I've talked to... including my own.
    To further confuse the issue, Master once said to me " You are my submissve, not my slave. You belong to me, but I don't own you." That might be confusing to some but it made perfect sense to me.
    Have a great day! "Peace" ~blizz~
    "Do you know, ultimately," I asked, "who will prove to be your one best trainer?" "No, Master," she said. "You, yourself," I said, "the girl, herself, eager to please, imaginative and intelligent, monitoring her own performances and feelings, striving lovingly to improve and refine them. You yourself will be largely responsible for making yourself the superb slave you will become."
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    Quote Originally Posted by His_blizzard View Post
    To further confuse the issue, Master once said to me " You are my submissve, not my slave. You belong to me, but I don't own you." That might be confusing to some but it made perfect sense to me.
    Have a great day! "Peace" ~blizz~
    i like that. By definition, i am a sub not a slave. i definitely belong to Him but He does not own me. He does call me His slave sometimes for lack of a better word. i guess it would be safe to say i am His sexual slave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozme52 View Post

    Language is too pliable. "Bird" You know exactly what I mean... certainly a horse is not a bird... nor is a snake... You know it has feathers, two legs and two wings. But birds lay eggs like (most) snakes. But birds are warm blooded like (most?) mammals. And what is a platypus?

    I think trying to define and describe roles with single words will never entirely work within the lifestyle. The moment you do... the exceptions will overwhelm you.
    I agree... Language just confuses things. My boy and I just call ourselves what it pleases us, damn the definitions.

    Oh... and they've determined what a platypus is. Part bird, part reptile. The article I read called it the missing link everybody's been searching for. (Totally off topic, I know, but I just read the article and it amused me!)


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