Quote Originally Posted by ProjectEuropa
I've never understood CBT and its association with arousal. The nearest I've been to CBT is taking a wet soccer ball keen in the balls on a wet, windy and cold November afternoon. The last thing on my mind as I lay curled up on a sodden pitch, was coming!

If someone can enlighten me I would be most interested, if only on an intellectual level.
Okay, i may be seriously missing your point here (being one of those dastardly young women an' all )..but isn't the fact that it's painful and/or unpleasant the whole point? Clearly i have no experience of CBT (yikes), but to draw a parallel, when i'm having my nipples tortured, hell, it HURTS, but i still get off on it, both as an adrenalin rush and as a manifestation of submission....to delve deeper would be to question the whole submissive/masochistic psyche, which is is a huge can of worms.

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