Quote Originally Posted by Kalluss
I'm not sure how you would work it with both of you. I'm sure that a liberal application of many different methods can induce what you're talking about. It's that subspace thing that some experience, the flying, loss of sense of self.

I don't think I'd want both of us under those kinds of stresses while in a shibari or BDSM scene. Someone has to be 'present' enough to know what's going on and to keep things safe.
That's what the trained monkeys are for! Lol, I should have been more specific in that I wouldn't experiment on both of us at the same time.

Back to what I'd like to explore. I remember once reading an interview with '60's LSD guru Aldous Huxley. (At least I think it was him. Definately not Leary.). He stated that if he'd known that he could accomplish better altered states through meditation, he would have never promoted drugs.

It's well known that monks and other people expert in meditation are able to exact an extraordinary level of control over the so-called involuntary body functions. Since Shibari is itself a form of meditation and Indian gurus are able to control their pain threshold, I think BDSM play is ripe for, um... "study".

Any thoughts out there?