Quote Originally Posted by mastercoyote

What I've become interested in lately is applying physical pain and psychological stressors, to both me and my slave, to induce a highly charged state that lasts for 4-6 hours--something akin to an LSD trip, but using the body's own chemicals.

Any thoughts on that?
I'm not sure how you would work it with both of you. I'm sure that a liberal application of many different methods can induce what you're talking about. It's that subspace thing that some experience, the flying, loss of sense of self.

I don't think I'd want both of us under those kinds of stresses while in a shibari or BDSM scene. Someone has to be 'present' enough to know what's going on and to keep things safe.