I was wondering about public executions because I have seen film of one in India, a hanging, and there were hundreds of people there watching and it was a very festive atmosphere. It was filimed sometime in the 30's I believe and it's not the greatest footage but it is real and was filmed at the behest of the governor or whatever they call them in India for personal use (ie it was not a government sanctioned film to be used to deter criminals).

So this film may not have been made for the purposes of sexual gratification but it was for personal consumption so where is the line drawn. It was not tittilating. The victim had a hood on and the camera wasn't in that close but it was real.

I am not interested in this kind of thing myself, and I dearly wish I had not seen it (I was actually a little disturbed by the scene in Gimme Shelter so you can tell from that I am not a fan of snuff), but I am not one to turn away.

I do believe that there is footage someone has shot for their own personal use but I don't think there are any commercially available (no matter how clandestine the organisation). Anything can and does happen. What about the guy who was recently acquitted, in a Scandinavian country, for killing and eating a willing participant. The victim (or subject really as he was 100% willing) answered an ad this guy placed and after a while of correspodence gave himself up to be killed and eaten. So there are definitely people out there willing and able to do pretty much anything.

Jason