Submissive vs. slave

[leo9]

the other day someone told me if i am a slave i would let SN do anything to me he wanted and what if he wanted to harm me. so i said, i know that he wouldn't harm me. the reply i got was: if i think that then i am not a slave as if i was i would have to fear all the time that he might. but why should i? i know that he won't as there wouldn't be a relationship if i couldn't trust him or he wouldn't care for me . seemed to me that that person spent too much time reading gor. also first thing he said was that he pitied me as i was a victim of a dominant male who uses bdsm as an excuse to overpower women

So, let me see if I've got this clear. If you couldn't trust your Master and lived in fear that he might harm you, you would be in a healthy D/s relationship. But because you trust him and know he cares for you, you're the victim of an exploiter.

You think you're confused? What about this guy? Never mind reading too much Gor, I think he's been smoking too much of something.

[myri_SN]

So, let me see if I've got this clear. If you couldn't trust your Master and lived in fear that he might harm you, you would be in a healthy D/s relationship. But because you trust him and know he cares for you, you're the victim of an exploiter.

You think you're confused? What about this guy? Never mind reading too much Gor, I think he's been smoking too much of something.

i'm not confused that guy seems to have a very wrong opinion. and have no clue about bdsm at all i think
then yesterday i read on another forum (not bdsmlibrary, they were arguying that the slaves ont he pics they kept posting were poor girls and needed to be pitied for what happens to them ) that some guy said that the women he plays with, (he didn't say play he said the ones he hurts and tortures) don't want to be hurt but they got no other choice

weird guy:
I am the master myself....but all the girls i torture don't want it at all...but they don't have any choise...

. so someone replied if they were going straight to the police afterwards then. he plainly replied:

weird guy:
They don't know shit....i put bags on their faces when i take them to my place and when i release them....so they don't know where they were

i told him that that wasn't BDSM but rape and abuse!!!!!

[allalone46]

i'm not confused that guy seems to have a very wrong opinion. and have no clue about bdsm at all i think
then yesterday i read on another forum (not bdsmlibrary, they were arguying that the slaves ont he pics they kept posting were poor girls and needed to be pitied for what happens to them ) that some guy said that the women he plays with, (he didn't say play he said the ones he hurts and tortures) don't want to be hurt but they got no other choice . so someone replied if they were going straight to the police afterwards then. he plainly replied: i told him that that wasn't BDSM but rape and abuse!!!!!

What this juy is doing is not ply, it is abuse. he isn't a Dom or even a Top, let a lone a Master he is some pervert getting his kiks off beatting up weman and calling it BDSM. This is the type of pervert, and yes I do meen pervert that gives use in the D/s life style a bad name. This is the type of %^^%$$#$$ that everyone thinks we are becouse when he does get cought, and he will pepole say are what we are, and he is going to say in his defence that he is in the D/s life style, and that is what we do. %*^*^$& like him make me sick. As for the *&%^%&$% well the words I have to discribe IT, well I have more respect to everyone reading this than to say them. And in here we can say some pretty rounghy things in the forums.

[myri_SN]

hands allalone46 some valerian tablets

[allalone46]

hands allalone46 some valerian tablets

I'm just a public school educated Dom and I am still learning and probable much of the knolage that works into and though the D/s lifestyle I havent learned. And yes some of it from Victoean times, and the middle adges but you did lose me there sarry. Also for some reason I cant read what is put up when it put in red on my computer screen some times. Some times and plases I can and so I can't. Here I can't. I wasn't able to read wht you said till I went to the responce section. Don.

[myri_SN]

I'm just a public school educated Dom and I am still learning and probable much of the knolage that works into and though the D/s lifestyle I havent learned. And yes some of it from Victoean times, and the middle adges but you did lose me there sarry. Also for some reason I cant read what is put up when it put in red on my computer screen some times. Some times and plases I can and so I can't. Here I can't. I wasn't able to read wht you said till I went to the responce section. Don.

just some herbal tablets to calm you down again, sowwy

[allalone46]

just some herbal tablets to calm you down again, sowwy

Thats a better color, and I don't tak herbal tablets . Just the color on this screen. Sarry for using the web. Back to the reason for it. On the sick person the was describe that got this started. He isn't one of use, and it sound like when he gets cought he is going to use all of use in the D/s lifestyle to justify himself and what he does. that said I do hope he gets cought. he is just abusing woman. If you wander what the difference is between what we do and abuse. Well what is decribed about him is one big difference.