Quote Originally Posted by leo9
IME, there's no correlation between levels of submission and levels of masochism.


No, and I didn't say there was. What I said, foremost, was that I was speaking in general terms. But there are many different "types" and "categories" that can fit under the generalized "submissive" banner. I know that a submissive does not have to be a masochist, because mine isn't. She doesn't want or appreciate pain at all, and if pain is used, it is more often than not, a punishment.

However, having said that, if you've seen our pictures, then you know she has a great fondness for candle wax. That's doesn't mean she's any more of a masochist or any less of a submissive. It just means she has a fetish she enjoys.

Submission is categorized, first and foremost, by the desire to submit. The extracurricular activities are just gravy. As I mentioned, though, trying to classify people by their exact likes, dislikes and fetishes could involve a very complicated naming process that no one really wants. Therefore, we stick to the broadly accepted terms most times: Submissive, slave, bottom, etc.