i got my collar that i never take off,t he leather cord with the antique silver lock as one of my old posts shows and a very strong one for playing and tying to. the only time my collar comes off is for job interviews right now, as he finds it more important to get the job than to not take the collar off for 2 hours and have the potential employers wonder what the hell i am wearing. also i think a permanent collar's main purpose is a symbolic one.