i don't think anyone outside any relationship can judge what type the relationship is. and M/s or D/s is different for everyone and i think only the two people involved can judge if it is M/s or D/s, not anyone else. we never had any vows or contracts of any kind, still doesn't mean he doesn't call me his slave. he knew my limits before we first met and a lot changed since then hence limits keeps changing to. and if there is something he thinks that i really dont like it i could ask him not to do it anymore but i wouldn't ask, if i don't like the particular thing, there is always some aspect to it that i like. for example i hate needles in my nipples but i know he likes doing that, and i sort of liek that he does it anyways no mather how scared i am, as long as i don't clearly ask him to not do it anymore he wont stop and if he wants to stick one in he will (cause i let him sort of, by not asking to see it as a hard limit, and that asking would only work as he said i could on that particular thing).