Originally posted by Venus
I found that VLMarquette describes very well domination/submission in the "Dark Love" series. And yes it is about vampires and about a world that is not possible, but ultimately I liked the description. Of course when reading stories I like the non-consensual stuff too, but I will have to agree that BDSM has to be consentual to some extent. Saying that BDSM can be non-consentual is just like saying that making love to someone can be forced. One can have sex with someone without consent that is called rape, but it is impossible to make love without both parties participating. To me it is the same with BDSM, one can force another to take pain or to do things, but that is just abuse, one cannot force another to participate in BDSM. BDSM is a lifestyle which means it is a choice that each makes.

Just my opinion

I don't get it. It's either consentual BDSM or abuse. One or the other, not both. I don't compare sex to rape, except when I am playing at it and then it's consentual the whole way.

Maybe I am misreading what you are saying, but what you seem to be saying to me is very disturbing.