I often see these or similar concepts spoken about on the net.

Here is a "Readers Digest" version of how I see them.

A submissive is one that chooses to recognize their interior desire for a power exchange, there attitude, play and all other things are to the one they choose to submit to.

Certain aspects of a submissives life is not governed by their dominant.

A slave chooses to go deeper in the power exchange and is often considered the property of their dominant. How ever just like a submissive, a slave expects that the dominant is up to the responsibility of their control.

The dominant must protect any individual choosing to surrender to their control, and this MUST include safe words.

As a slave, I myself have agreed that how i dress, (or don't dress as the case may be) and what I do and don't do is always either with the direct consent, command or order of my dominant, or is within the set rules. Failure to do this is cause for release. There is no negotiation, no discussion of the rules, they were layed out at the beginning, will be restated often and that as they say is that!

Objectification, is something that I personally see as a depth of additional "play" within either of the above catagories. As such, I have not really read or expereinced first hand, there fore have choosen not to address this as a thrid state.

The choice to be a slave, imo, develops to the individuals within a D/s relationship. I am a submissive by nature, yet slave to the one that owns me. He is the final word, he controls, i obey!

There are as many different ideas, and none of them wrong or right as there are individuals, for the dub vs slave aspect of D/s.

Learning the concepts each other has of these, discussing the similarities and the differences is essential.

Unlike slavery of old, where society knew the same rules and standards applied, we are talking about power exchange.

An exchange between two consenting adults, who have intrinsic rights and values.

ANY time safing out is removed, we no longer have responsible D/s or BDSM, we have the making for brutality and abuse.

*sighs* I must run, will try to expand on this if need be later.

veru skjava