Oh my, here we go again!

It is easy for someone who has a r/l partner to propound the virtues of an online relationship as a "cerebral" experience...or some experience that is worthy of more "trust" than a r/l experience. As i don't believe that anyone sits in the other room and yells requests/orders to their sub and just expects them to be done without evidence. Since i don't have a r/l partner, this is ALL that i have and i wanted to make it as "real" as i possibly could (WW can tell his own opinion as to whether this is the case with him). Yes, i told him i had the cam, offered to use it, and he accepted.

Anyone who tells me that they have obeyed EVERY order/request that an online Dom has given them is just, i am sorry, IMHO, lying. No one does it in real life, much less online, where the evidence of their conduct is not apparent. It falls somewhere in the line of faking an orgasm in the vanilla world, and any woman who tells me that she has not EVER done that, i am sorry, IMHO, is also lying.

i perhaps did not explain myself very well, had NO idea it would cause such a big thunderstorm, and the written word does not lend itself to communication of real points...it is about your interpretation of what i said...not my real meaning, which leads me back to why i like to use voice and cam. The inflection of words, the tones of voice, and the looks on a face are worth THOUSANDS of words. We are not talking video porn here, WW could watch a movie for that...everyone knows there are thousands of them out there for FREE.

i acknowledge and accept responsiblity for my lack of explanation. i should have been more clear...and i am new to the online experience as i have pointed out to many of you that i have chatted with. i will take this as a learning experience, that i need to be more specific and spell out EXACTLY what i mean and not leave it open to interpretation by people who do not know me. Since i am new to the forum, you could not possibly know me TG...i couldn't expect you to know that i didn't mean we had video porn running here and that WOULD somehow lessen the importance of our relationship. The video aspect of an online relationship is nice to have, i bought the cam to communicate with my mother who lives a couple hours from me and wanted to stay in closer touch and i wanted her to see my children. Video just made everybody seem closer...more real. It is the same thing here. It just made us closer...more real, that is all. Not about trust...not about PROVING anything...it is about being closer, feeling real in a world where i do not get to live in a lifestyle i would choose. Wouldn't work for everyone.

But i beleive that we have touched on some real issues here and if i hadn't said what i said and you hadn't responded as you did, the discussion would have died and maybe things happened as they did for a reason. You have JUSTLY pointed out that cams can be a lessening of a mental relationship and turn it into a physical one...more like a one night stand. i have tried (hopefully effectively) to point out that cams can improve a relationship, help you get to know your partner if you are not using them for video porn or EVEN if you are if that is your goal. i don't knock anyone for video porn if that is their calling. Obviously, i prefer stories...i spent most of my time (of the time i had available) at this site, lurking, before i came out in the open...some prefer videos.

Also, to each their own......and Party on? You bet. Thanks TG for a lively discussion.