just an idea...

[Curtis]

I'm probably gonna be sorry, but here goes.

I think Xue Lan's news story is an excellant one, because it demonstrates clearly the ambiguities that can crop up in situations like this. As I read it, it shows clearly that this ball player was the victim of two sexual predators. They professed to be of age, they approached him in a chat room, he made an attempt to verify their age -- I don't know what more could be expected of him.

Back when I was in my early twenties, I was at a party for company employees and their children. A pair of sisters at the party were coming on to anyone in long pants, and we spent some time together, getting friendly. Near the end of the party, their Mother approached me and asked, with a funny look on her face, how old I thought her daughters were? That was the first moment the alarm bells went off. I replied that I thought they were 17 and 18. She nodded, then informed me that they were 12 and 14 and would I please stop bothering them? Bothering THEM? THEY were bothering ME! And the worst part was that the 12 year old was the one I thought was 18. It never would have occured to me to try to verify their ages, because there was no doubt in my mind. (I still have nightmares where I'm being chased through the house where the party was held, by the mother carrying a gun.)

I have a female cousin who, when she was 12, used to go to parties at frat houses and do lines of coke. What was she doing in exchange for the cocaine? (Actually, it may not have been sex -- when she was 17, she was arrested for breaking into 150 cars over a weekend and stealing stereo systems.)

Of course, I'm not trying to say that all nubile femmes are predators, and Sirthumper's story is specifically about an innocent. On the other hand, my stories are all about real life people, while his story idea is FICTION.

If you're going to tell stories about women being raped and abused (as I know some of you have), how is it qualitatively different if the victim is 13 instead of 33? To mis-quote Xue Lan: What if that woman is your mother? What if she's your older sister? Rape is rape and, except for the increased chance of injury, it doesn't matter if the victim is 3 or 93, male or female. One rape is all rapes.

Now, it's wonderful that such an extended discussion has developed over Sirthumper's story idea, but this is the Story Ideas subsection of the Forum and I think he has sufficiently clairified his original precis, so we all know just what he had in mind. If anyone is interested in writing a story based on his idea, fine; if not, I'm sure there's another subsection more appropriate for this discussion to continue.

Merry Christmas

(P.S.: The other thread on this subject is much shorter. It's in the Comments and Suggestions subsection and is entitled 'Couple comments regarding BDSM Library'.)