Orgasm on Demand

[fantassy]

Thought I'd let you all know, Brosco and I have reached some additional milestones in our experiment. Hard for me to explain (I much better at analyzing an argument than describing feelings.), but I'll give it my best shot.

It can be best summarized as my having removed another barrier to Brosco's control of my O's. I basically feel I removed one more of those layers inside my head that was basically censoring and evaluating what he was doing before my mind agreed to comply. In legal terms, I guess I'd say the presumption in my head has shifted, so that I am presuming I will comply without thought. As a result, I was able to stop a single O on command as soon as it started, and B has been able to control whether I have single vs. multiple O's.

As to why this has occurred . . . perhaps time, perhaps the fact that we've had our first big fight - not really sure.

Just thought I would try to continue the thread, even though the pigheaded, hot-tempered, old fool (his words, not mine, but they are appropriate) got himself banned from the forum.

You may be amused to know that Brosco is getting to experience a bit of O-control himself as punishment for being a pigheaded, hot-tempered, old fool who broke his word to me. I have gotten 2 days of guaranteed O's while he is getting 5 days without any O's himself.

fantassy

(by the way, yes, Brosco knows I am reporting all this to you)

[submissivewife]

fantassy, This is great. Although, we do miss Brosco, I think your spin on this is well....amusing. NO insult intended. Not only has he been banned as punishment his subbie dishes out one too. This is the first I have ever seen a dom being "punished". Learn something new every day.

[Ozme52]

fantassy, This is great. Although, we do miss Brosco, I think your spin on this is well....amusing. NO insult intended. Not only has he been banned as punishment his subbie dishes out one too. This is the first I have ever seen a dom being "punished". Learn something new every day.

I'm not sure I saw fantassy say that exactly.

Shows you how much subwife still has to learn. LOL, Don't you know, us dom's are so much into punishment, sometimes we even have to punish ourselves.

If I know Brosco, I'd almost be willing to bet it was his idea... almost.

[fantassy]

I'm not sure I saw fantassy say that exactly.

Shows you how much subwife still has to learn. LOL, Don't you know, us dom's are so much into punishment, sometimes we even have to punish ourselves.

If I know Brosco, I'd almost be willing to bet it was his idea... almost.

Yet again, Oz, you do indeed know all. Some of you may recall, one of Brosco's theories is that punishment allows a couple to put an infraction behind them. Thus I merely asked if he wanted me to be able to continue to bring up this issue or if he preferred punishment. He picked the punishment and set the terms himself.

fantassy

But you're probably right, Sub'wife, I'm not the most submissive of submissives in most things. Fortunately, although he may be pigheaded in the forum, Brosco is endlessly patient with and even appreciative of my fiestiness.

[Ozme52]

Yesssss! Damn I'm good. LOL

[fantassy]

It's been a while, but I felt like sharing my general state of happiness and updating our O control progress. Although we have not yet acheived our ultimate goal of cum on demand without any physical stimulation, Brosco has achieved a high level of control over my O's. In addition to not cumming until he gives permission no matter how much teasing and stimulation I receive, I consistently O on command (provided I am receiving physical stimulation). Moreover, Brosco is able to command the size of the O (big O, little O), number/type of O's (1 small O, a series of big O's, 1 big O followed by rippling O's), the duration (he can stop an O in the middle, or keep multiple O's going for minutes on end until he says to stop), and can bring forth O's when I think I'm already O'd out. Needless to say, we are have a delightful time with our experiment (although I have to say, stopping a big O almost as soon as it starts is NOT a pleasant experience).

I wondered if anyone else is experimenting in this area, and how it is going.

fantassy

By the way, did I share how happy I am?

[submissivewife]

Thanks Fantassy for continuing to share with us. I do enjoy reading about your progress, and hope to continue doing so. Thank you for sharing!

[Silke]

Hey fantassy...how wonderful that you keep this thread alive and share your experiences so freely. It's still one of the most exciting threads to follow.

You were asking whether anyone else was experimenting with this...well, my Master and I have looked into this for a bit, but under different circumstances. We're just online - the typing kind of online - and I believe that might not be quite as fast or intense as what you and Brosco are doing. It's still been a wonderful experience so far and I wouldn't want to miss it for the life of me. *grins*

The way we've been playing is through masturbation on an auditory cue - damn, that sound gets me going alright by now - and then attempting to cum on command through a typed command. As I said before...it's a much slower medium and I'd much prefer actually hearing him...but we've been getting closer and closer to cumming on command step by step. It's genuinely happened once so far (*grins* and what a beauty this one was), and the rest of the time I'm managing to reach my peak pretty close to the command but not necessarily on it.

I guess what makes it a lot more difficult is that it's harder for him to judge how close I am to cumming by just reading my comments, and therefore he sometimes might be just a tad too early. OR, as Brosco said when he was still around...it really might be a question of switching from denial/teasing to allowing myself to cum. I've noticed that this switch is not always an easy one for me to make. I'm usually actively trying to force an orgasm instead of taking myself back and allowing things to happen...and the one time it worked on cue it really sneaked up on me. lol

Anyway - whatever comes out of this training...it's SO much FUN! And I'll gladly continue trying (or letting go for that matter ) regardless of whether we finally get there or not.

Hope to hear more of your success stories....or challenges. You're an inspiration! *smiles*

Silke

[fantassy]

Thanks for sharing Silke. It must be incredibly hard to do this merely through typing. I would never be able to describe my feelings accurately enough for him to be able to judge if he couldn't hear me. Moreover, it must be incredibly hard for you to have to divide your attention between typing, reading and feeling. No wonder you have trouble just relaxing and letting it happen - you've had so many things to do ! I have the luxury of being able to lay back and just focus on that cute Aussie voice through the headphones and feel. For me it's very important to be able to turn my brain off, go into subbie mode and just do as instructed. Brosco calls it giving me a mind-cleaning, lol. Once we're in the midst of playing, I basically go pre-verbal - managing only moans, groans, gasps, whimpers, aha, uh a, and the occasional yes sir, no sir.

Lest you wonder about the speed of our progress - we're both single and have quite a bit of time on our hands right now, so we spend hours talking each day/night.

And you're right, who really cares if we ever achieve the ultimate goal, we are having SO much fun in the trying.

fantassy

[Dominic8]

I believe it is possible for a submissive to reach an orgasm on demand with proper training. Please do not take this the wrong way, but it is known that in the food processing business animals are trained when to eat and when to sleep just by turning on and off the lights. It is also known that the same thing can be used to put fear in someones mind. Ring a bell and follow it with an electric shock. Eventually when the bell is rung fear follows. Apply this same principle to having sex or being stimulated and eventually it becomes a habit. For instance a certain sound or music could be followed by having sex...eventually...play the sound or song and U would become excited... Let me know what U think..

[fantassy]

I agree. Should work just like Pavlov's dog.

Aarf. Aarf. Hmm, maybe those students who called me a bitch behind my back were more accurate than they knew . . .

fantassy

[Silke]

Hey - to the forums Dominic8! And yes...I agree, it's all basic conditioning and that's pretty much the same principle as in training animals, too.

lol, I wonder whether my neighbour's dogs were having as much fun as we're having here...well, it did wag its tail so...oh never mind, *giggles*

[fantassy]

Hey Silke,

I was discussing your post with Brosco and he suggested your dom record a message/command for you, which you could either replay on his signal or at least hear in your head when he texts you. Just thought I'd pass the suggestion along.

fantassy

[Silke]

Thanks, fantassy - that's a wonderful suggestion! lol, I'll just do the same thing you did...pass the message on and see what he thinks of it. *grins* I'd love to hear his voice actually...

Thank you again for the idea, fantassy, please pass that on to Brosco as well. It's good to know he's still following what's going on in this thread through you...after all that I've seen happening between the two of you I can't help but think of him as the long distance orgasm king. *giggles*

[Gr1m'sGirl]

I see the makings of a quasi-scientific experiment here. Hmmmm, we'd need several untrained ladies for each training method and a control group. LOL

I wonder how many volunteers we could get.

Ooh! Pick me! Hehe.

[Violenteer]

This thread has been highly enlightening.

I would like to add a small piece about the relationship I am in. Myself and sub fell into our relationship with a ridiculous ease. The very first time we met there was a definate dominant and submissive play off between us.

I started baby doll out on a fairly rigorous routine of CD, followed by the extremes of cum saturation. Mostly days or half days of each. I was blessed that I had a contract which had just completed and as such had a stack of spare time on my hands to devote to baby doll. Although probably not having reached Broscos leavel of control as in the size and intensity of the 'O', I can definately say that baby doll can cum on rough skin contact, and the words: Cum Now.

This results in one 'O', but 3 'O's can be achieved through this method by repeating the command. I add, hair pulling, hand around the neck and/or a slap.

Looking forward to extending the repetoir to encreasing intensity. To simply being able to use the word only. And of course, to being able to stop her mid-orgasm!

[Ozme52]

Excellent.

[fantassy]

It's great to see someone posting in this thread again! Congratulations on your success! As far as stopping mid-orgasm, in my experience, that mostly requires effort from your sub. When cumming, I mostly try to relax and just let my body respond to Brosco's command, but when I have to stop mid-orgasm, I have to use all my mental and physical efforts to obey. When Brosco gives me a good workout in O-control, muscles all over my body end up sore the next day from clenching to stop the O's.