delia,
Well said and I mostly agree with you. You have taken my post on bottoms, subs, slave to another level. I do appreciate that since mine was meet with much descent and cries of labeling is wrong.

I hope that I have done a little to help this set of forums to get beyond that and understand that an accurate term is needed to be able to communicate both ideas and ideals.

I do believe that a slave is not trained but one that has a deep need to be owned and serve. It is as I have said before a depth of commitment to their Dominant.

A top is merely playing at the life and is actually in complete control even though on the receiving end of scenes. A sub has a Dom/me that they serve willingly but have set limits so in a sense some control so more commitment then a top but much less then a slave. A slave has such great commitment that her Master/Owner must accept a great responsibility and burden to care for her

Subs are great and wonderful people that I adore and admire but over the last few months I know that a sub is not really what I search for or want, it is a slave.

I know that whoever I accept must have the heart and soul of a slave, then I will help her gain the respect, honor and pride in me and of being mine.

Oh, I also disagree with the lack of kinky sex for a slave, mine will get more then her share of it. I do though understand your point that it isn't the main or even a large part of it.