hmmmm

[Ozme52]

Oh and someone please get to Oz's attachment, I want to see!!!

chuckles... if Oz moves his pic to the self-portraits area, it will be automatically approved. smiles... pics (I believe) are only allowed in these threads if they have to do w/thread content, which, though arguably Oz in his black leathers does, it isn't technically the right area for it... Probably why it hasn't been approved *smiles*

lol, I have been here long enough, I should realistically know the rules, but I got all excited. I'll contain it now, and hope the picture gets moved, because now that's unecessary teasing.

Sorry cadence... I decided to remove it. Though willing to post it here in this context... as a confident dom, I have no need to display myself in the self-portrait thread. LOL

I can, he said teasingly, arrange a private showing for you...

We should get this post back on track though.

I am still curious as to why Dominants don't show any pictures at all, is it because they don't feel that need to.

Probably true. I wouldn't have had any inclination to post that picture except in response to your comment.

Are Dominants just not exhibitionists as submissives are more inclined to be?

Perhaps Dom men, as men, tend to be more visual, and sub women, as subs, tend to try to please us that way.

[thepast]

Right... as to the point of this thread (sorry for the hijack, gem)...

Doms often don't post pictures of themselves, I believe for two main reasons: 1.) They tend to be more alert & concerned about privacy issues then subs. Is this because they are smarter? No. More intelligent? No. More saavy? No... it's just because... well... it is; 2.) Doms are not always what is in a woman's fantasy, and, like subs, many don't want to ruin the fantasy that their sub has in their mind, or the scene personality that they have created. Does this mean, by rule, Doms are ugly? *grins* NO. Buuuut... I think they tend to, more then subs, keep that kind of thing close-chest.

As for why subs do it... I think sometimes it's an attention getter. Also, subs tend to be into some variation of exhibitionism & voyeurism & humiliation more then Doms are, in the sense that showing the picture emotes these kinks for subs, whereas a Dominant needs the submissive to show the picture in order to emote the same kinks... Does that make sense?? Like everything else, Doms tend to "get their kick" in a different way then a submissive does.

Alll that being said... Does ANYONE know a group of guys that enjoys standing for or being in pics as much as girlfriends do? Uhhh usually not. Guys just aren't as much into the whole camera thing as women are. So there could be the gender divide as well.

Personally, I know why T & I don't put our pics on here: while we love the vast majority of all y'all, I don't particularly want some creepy stalker showing up at the grocery store professing their love to me or coming up behind T in a Grim Reaper/Darth Vader moment with a knife in their hand, cursing him & killing him off for something He did as a Site Admin...chuckles... Have people met us? Of course...so they know what we look like. But again, it's all about perspective & reality... and a little bit of personal choice.

Now... mastersgem... if you need a pic of someone here on this site... *grins*... there are ...ways... to get one.... *coughs groveling coughs*

[Rowen]

I would think that we all have respect for ourselves, so I am a bit confused by what you mean. And as to what Rowen said, regardless if it is humiliating, if you like it, how can you have zero respect for yourself?

Cadence, allow me to correct myself: I didn't mean that you, or other submissives (which I am as well, btw) don't respect yourselves when you post a pic. I fact, I have an immense admiration for the courage it takes to take those pictures and post them. Believe me that I envy and respect the courage of Slut Linda on that part.
It shows courage, it also shows devotion. BUT...that's how I look it at..many others will say different. Please don't forget that many people, even in the medical profession think about BDSM as a "sexuality disorder"

And if I offended you, please accept my apologies right here..

[Rowen]

As for why subs do it... I think sometimes it's an attention getter. Also, subs tend to be into some variation of exhibitionism & voyeurism & humiliation more then Doms are, in the sense that showing the picture emotes these kinks for subs, whereas a Dominant needs the submissive to show the picture in order to emote the same kinks... Does that make sense?? Like everything else, Doms tend to "get their kick" in a different way then a submissive does.

Hmmm, don't know. Maybe it is that submissive trait wanting to please, to show the devotion, perhaps also the fear of rejection, the need of reassurance that they did it right?
Becoming quit a thread btw!!

[cadence]

Cadence, allow me to correct myself: I didn't mean that you, or other submissives (which I am as well, btw) don't respect yourselves when you post a pic. I fact, I have an immense admiration for the courage it takes to take those pictures and post them. Believe me that I envy and respect the courage of Slut Linda on that part.
It shows courage, it also shows devotion. BUT...that's how I look it at..many others will say different. Please don't forget that many people, even in the medical profession think about BDSM as a "sexuality disorder"

And if I offended you, please accept my apologies right here..

No need to apologize, I am not offended at all. I may have misconstrued your statement a tad.
But I can understand how others think BDSM is a sexuality disorder. Just because they are medical professionals, does not mean that their statements or thinking is absolutely valid. Some medical professionals do practice BDSM as well. I don't hold what they say too literally.

Sorry cadence... I decided to remove it. Though willing to post it here in this context... as a confident dom, I have no need to display myself in the self-portrait thread. LOL

I can, he said teasingly, arrange a private showing for you...

Please don't tease cadence, it's just wrong
but if you are willing to show, I am always ready and available

[Rowen]

But I can understand how others think BDSM is a sexuality disorder. Just because they are medical professionals, does not mean that their statements or thinking is absolutely valid. Some medical professionals do practice BDSM as well. I don't hold what they say too literally.

LMAO!!! Indeed they do!! You have any idea how adequate that remark is...?!! really, LOL...However, the point, the sad point, is that even if that is so, even if the "damsel in distress" scene is cliché in movies, even if handcuffs are THE gift on a bachelorette party...and every male head turns for a leather clad girl on a bike..many "decent people" will call us freaks, even people who should know better..
But..don't wanna do a second hijack of poor gemmies thread..sorry

[thrall]

Yes, I do understand the risks completely and always have but am I to think then from your statement thrall that I have NO respect for myself because I've posted pictures? Or anyone else who has, for their own reasons, posted their photos? Nice!

No MG that is not what i mean ...when i say "could it be that they have respect for...themselves"......

It is not saying that the ones in the pics have no respect for themselves

It simply means that they are more then happy to ask, request , and or applaud a sub for posting pics... that shall we say..are compromising.....but in the same breath.....would NEVER dream of putting themselves in the same position.....

So......again.....no pics of the Dom/me/men/Doms

So who are they leaving the burden.......and consequences too, for any fallout from the posting of said pics??

I also said........

There are many here who like to post pics of themselves. For themselves and by themselves… if that is what they want to do….. great.

[Arria]

Geez, people, please stop punishing delia etc. for pointing out the risks! They truly are valid! It might just be me, being married to an IT person, but _anything_ you put out on the internet can be found and seen by others!

If you are willing to take that risk, fine. But please don´t think that anybody else who does not thinks less of you.
Even if they did - why would that concern you? The disapproval of people you never met and, most likely, never will?
We are all different, everyone has his/her own kink, can we not just let it stand like that?

I myself have pictures of me not only here, but also on some tattoo-related pages. I take care not to post body pics that show my face. On the other hand, anyone on those pages or here can see my face and (parts of my) body. I do not mind that, as I am outed pretty much everywhere. If anybody found me, he kept his mouth shut so far :-)
I would not like a full-body picture that also shows my face circulating worldwide on the web, though... then again, it would not kill me.

I don´t have a problem with people I actually interact with knowing approximately what I look like. I have travelled extensively during my tattoo convention times. My leg and my belly have been photographed more times than I could remember. So I am out there anyway - parts of me, that is. I do not mind that.
I would _not_ like them to see my pussy or nipples, though. So I don´t post these. Hubby would not want that, either, so it´s out of the question anyway.

As for humiliating/degrading pics: Hubby would not even ask me to take those of me. I have seen WAY too much shit happen with nude pics of female friends of mine - whose angry ex-boyfriends posted these (quite innocent pics, compared with some of the stuff that is up here!) all over the web.

It is up to each person to decide if they want to take that risk - but again, I do ask you not to damn others because they see the necessity to utter a fair warning about potential consequences!

[claire]

I think the problem with the lack of Dom pictures here, is symptomatic of our society. When I prowl around to find erotic pictures or art, the majority is oriented toward men, be they gay or straight. There is a very limited amount out there geared toward woman. We have made very little progress since Burt Reynolds bared all (sheesh does that date me or what). I think men just aren't used to the idea of displaying themselves for a woman's pleasure. Whereas it gives many women pleasure to display themselves for a man's pleasure. Does that make sense?

I also find it very interesting that the only male who has contributed to this thread is Oz. Forgive me if I missed someone else. Come on guys let's hear what you have to say about this.

[thrall]

HHHmmm....
Could it be that they are..........smart, cautious, and know the risks????

Doms often don't post pictures of themselves, I believe for two main reasons: 1.) They tend to be more alert & concerned about privacy issues then subs. Is this because they are smarter? No.

You see Delia....i would say form what you infer.....yes they are smarter. And for the reasons you stated. More alert. More concerned about privacy. .....And are these not issues that a good Dom should be concerned about FOR his sub??? Are these not smart reasons for not posting pics??

Personally, I know why T & I don't put our pics on here: while we love the vast majority of all y'all, I don't particularly want some creepy stalker showing up at the grocery store professing their love to me or coming up behind T in a Grim Reaper/Darth Vader moment with a knife in their hand, cursing him & killing him off for something He did as a Site Admin...chuckles... Have people met us? Of course...so they know what we look like. But again, it's all about perspective & reality... and a little bit of personal choice.

Again..smart reasons for NOT posting pics. Shouldn't everyone be concerned about these issues??

Could it be that they are not who they claim to be??

Doms are not always what is in a woman's fantasy, and, like subs, many don't want to ruin the fantasy that their sub has in their mind, or the scene personality that they have created. Does this mean, by rule, Doms are ugly? *grins* NO. Buuuut... I think they tend to, more then subs, keep that kind of thing close-chest.

You say it a bit differently Delia... but is in essence the same thing....




all reasons why men/Doms.........do not post pics...

[Rowen]

I also find it very interesting that the only male who has contributed to this thread is Oz. Forgive me if I missed someone else. Come on guys let's hear what you have to say about this.

You did miss someone else...me being still male the last time I checked. And I did sent a pic...it's hidden...but also visible..

[claire]

My apologies Rowan. I don't know why I assumed "Rowan" was female . You have contributed quite a lot to this discussion too. Shame on me. I deserve to be severely punished for such an oversight.

Now I will have to go in search of your picture.

[Rowen]

Hmmm do like the apology, really do. Never seen so many avatars in one post either. Thinking about the topic...would two hours in the public pillory: and 20 lashes do?

[claire]

Well if you are offering to let the bit of Dom in you out, all I can say is, yes please, Sir.

[Rowen]

Well if you are offering to let the bit of Dom in you out, all I can say is, yes please, Sir.

Consider it done be it long distance. Enjoy the sore butt and the snickering of the onlookers.

[gemmy]

Okay... Be warned. Sit down and prepare yourself.... and try not to swoon.

This is why we are so careful with our images.

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I guess you'll have to wait afterall, based on subsequent commentary about posting it in the self-portrait thread...

and...

though there was only a square inch of skin showing... the motorcycle was quite identifiable...

*giggles* thanks anyway Oz xo

[gemmy]

No MG that is not what i mean ...when i say "could it be that they have respect for...themselves"......

It is not saying that the ones in the pics have no respect for themselves

It simply means that they are more then happy to ask, request , and or applaud a sub for posting pics... that shall we say..are compromising.....but in the same breath.....would NEVER dream of putting themselves in the same position.....

That's self respect? Sorry but I just don't understand how you can call that self respect and especially in the context in which you posted it earlier. Nevermind, it matters not - just odd

And claire, I find it equally interesting that more of the Male Dom's haven't responded *rubs chin* more to ponder on the mysteries of Masters

[Kuskovian]

LOL. Truely amusing .

Why bother when we can sit back and be entertained by all the pretty slaves.

Is it not the lioness that does all the "work" in the wild, while the Lion watches over his dominion?

[DowntownAmber]

Though I commented earlier on this topic and still stand by what I say, it occured to me that I missed one tiny tidbit: women are curvy, soft, and rather easy on the eyes. Men? Kinda goofy lookin' nekkid. Just sayin'.

[Dea Menrfa]

LOL...

I am a female, and a domme. You will not find my photo here... nor any photos under this user ID... I have family that don't need to see me EVER in this light. Not that I am embarassed by it, but that they could be.

I do ask for pictures via email from my pets though... as a face reveals a lot about a person. I would hope that pictures via email are safe enough.

I HAVE recently discovered, that male subs tend to like the fantasy they create themselves. Discovering that their domme is a real person with real life thoughts, opinions, and frailties are not something the subs I have met, want to know about.

So I continue to learn. Day by day.

I am grateful for you all.

And you my little gem... your pictures knock my socks off. But you know that. I certainly do appreciate those of you who have the courage to post your own pictures.

Take Care & Be Well.

[gemmy]

Though I commented earlier on this topic and still stand by what I say, it occured to me that I missed one tiny tidbit: women are curvy, soft, and rather easy on the eyes. Men? Kinda goofy lookin' nekkid. Just sayin'.

lmao Amber, only you would say it haha!!

Who said anything about nekkid photos?? huh?? huh?? Friggen perv!! lol

*hugs hunnie* xo

[DowntownAmber]

lmao Amber, only you would say it haha!!

Who said anything about nekkid photos?? huh?? huh?? Friggen perv!! lol

*hugs hunnie* xo

Yeah I was just talking about this very topic with Greg and J... Nekkid photos are for pervs! *collapses in a heap giggling* Seriously, who DOES that??

[orchidsoul]

Nekkid photos are for pervs! *collapses in a heap giggling* Seriously, who DOES that??

thankfully lots! *giggles with you*
whatever the reasons- whether you're an exhibitionist, or someone dared you, or you're looking for a little encouragement, or you're teaching something, or you're just plain proud... I do sincerely thank you all from the bottom of my... *ahem*

Refering to the question at large, we do lack in the man flesh...
there is always the trick of not including your face gentlemen, so don't be shy!
it's really only fair- I mean, if y'all get to see the goods before doing delicious things... we should get to see the goods that might be doing said deliciosity's!

I have never posted a picture that included any naked part of me with a face, and never would because I'd fear it spreading around...however, on a non-public group I am a part of, I have put up pictures of my face (no nekkidness included with the face)
If someone I know sees me online... then we have a new exciting conversation topic. But the reality is I'm still a wimp and wouldn't want to be spotted by someone I know prancing butt naked through a bdsm forum. Mostly because they may never tell me they saw...

[gemmy]

Yeah I was just talking about this very topic with Greg and J... Nekkid photos are for pervs! *collapses in a heap giggling* Seriously, who DOES that??

*bats eyelashes innocently* lalalala wouldn't know hehe

And umm speaking of the Domly Greg Dude.....and Domly photo's *giggles*

[denuseri]

lol, this may be a wierd observation, but were yu all aware that the site has a photo contest thread, and picks winners etc (thuse promoting user pictures) each month

as for what kind of photos win, idk how they are chosen or anything but if you look at submitted pictures you may see why i find some of the disscussion here a little bit ironic

not to mention the fact that a rare handfull of doms compared to a plethora of subs has posted on this thread in the doms area ,,weg subbie take over lol

[thrall]

lol, this may be a wierd observation, but were yu all aware that the site has a photo contest thread, and picks winners etc (thuse promoting user pictures) each month

as for what kind of photos win, idk how they are chosen or anything but if you look at submitted pictures you may see why i find some of the disscussion here a little bit ironic

not to mention the fact that a rare handfull of doms compared to a plethora of subs has posted on this thread in the doms area ,,weg subbie take over lol

And ......irony of irony.....LMAO. I enter submissions......and have won.

The photo submissions do not necessarily have to be you or even body parts. They just have to conform to the theme that is given.....

That being said.....there is nothing that could track back to me.....

And all i have to say for that is.........lol.......parts is parts!

[MissElizabeth87]

I don't know if this is talking about men specifically when you say Doms or just Dominants... but... I don't have any pics on here as a Domme... and really that is because I don't have a digital camera/scanner! haha. I'm a bit of an exhibitionist, so I wouldn't mind posting pics (with identifying marks um... hidden, of course). I just don't have the equipment. haha

[denuseri]

yes any pics of me are supposed to have any identifing marks absent as well, everything from my special clit ring and its bell, to my brand/tatto site as well as most face pics, are to have been altered obscured or simply not identifiably visible as part of the whole

[gemmy]

lol, this may be a wierd observation, but were yu all aware that the site has a photo contest thread, and picks winners etc (thuse promoting user pictures) each month

as for what kind of photos win, idk how they are chosen or anything but if you look at submitted pictures you may see why i find some of the disscussion here a little bit ironic

not to mention the fact that a rare handfull of doms compared to a plethora of subs has posted on this thread in the doms area ,,weg subbie take over lol

And denu, therein lies my original question

And ......irony of irony.....LMAO. I enter submissions......and have won.

The photo submissions do not necessarily have to be you or even body parts. They just have to conform to the theme that is given.....

That being said.....there is nothing that could track back to me.....

And all i have to say for that is.........lol.......parts is parts!

Except you are not a Dominant, are you?

[Ozme52]

I don't know if this is talking about men specifically when you say Doms or just Dominants... but... I don't have any pics on here as a Domme... and really that is because I don't have a digital camera/scanner! haha. I'm a bit of an exhibitionist, so I wouldn't mind posting pics (with identifying marks um... hidden, of course). I just don't have the equipment. haha

I do...