Need help with chains

[Sir_Russell]

My morgan loves a task a started her on, but we found out that the chains I am using seem to be causing a physical reaction.

I had her put a dog collar chain in her pussy one night and just have the O rings out, one on the clit and one on her anus. We were about 2100 miles apart at the time. She loved it, and when I had her put the hard wand vibrator on her labia lips then clit it was fireworks time.

We progressed to putting one in her pussy and one in her mouth. She loved this and even more with other chains on her sweet body.

The problem came when she started to feel sick from the chains being inside of her. Now she wants them back and I need to know what type of chain I can get that would not break me and be safe for this kind of play.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[pixie_dust]

The only thing I can guess about this would be that the chrome plating is causing the reaction. You may want to consider going to a hardware or farm supply store (if they're in your area) and buying something without any plating on it. Hopefully this will work.


Also, if you do buy them from there, remember to wash them thoroughly before using them as they will be coated with a light weight oil. This could possibly irritation or an allergic reaction with her skin.


Wish I could be more helpful.

[_ID_]

Stainless steel is usually a good option. You can usually find a variety of thicknesses at DomDepot for not too much money. If you are looking to lock the links together, there are a variety of options for that too.

Since your looking to insert, be sure to sanitize all items in boiling water. Leave it out in the open air for 48 -72 hours. If it begins to show signs of rust, discard the item, as it would cause internal problems from its inferior manufacturing.

Avoid galvanized or chrome plated items, as they will flake under wear.

[Sir_Russell]

Thank you both, we were considering stainless steel so that sounds like the best bet.

[Ocean_Soul]

Another reason to avoid galvanized in general is because it can potentially be toxic especially when it is in places where there are things for the coating to react with (eg. human body). The coating usually takes on a dull gray appearance.

A good rule of thumb would be to look for things that are food grade such as stainless.

I'm rather anal about things that are exposed to the human body, especially some metals. In one of the toys I have been working on I went so far to grab up some brazing rod that is used in the brewing industry to try and get something as safe as possible.

[lily27]

Personally, I have an allergy to nickel. Unfortunately it is a very common filler-metal, and is in just about everything. I have to be very careful about the jewelry I wear.

I also reacted to the metal bits on my first training collar. I was really upset and wore it anyway (despite the itchy red rash) until Master ordered me to put it away (and replaced it with one that didn't bother me).

My guess is it is a reaction to the metal... and apparently nickel is an increasingly common sensitivity. Going with stainless steel sounds good to me as well.

[gloombunny]

My flatmate has that nickel allergy thing too. I let him use some of my clear nail polish to cover his belt buckle so he'd stop getting rashes.

That's probably not a good solution for vaginal chains, though.

[_ID_]

I forgot to mention, after having soaked your metal, and leaving it in the open air. DO NOT DRY IT. You want the water to force the metal to oxidize. If you dry the metal, it will not show rust. Placing it on a water soaked foam pad will do the same thing to it.

Note: Chrome plated items wont rust until the coating is worn off.

As NatalieD mentioned nickel plating or nickel filler is a problem, check for metal content, you can do that through the manufacture. The stores don't usually list this information.

[Rhabbi]

Sir Russell,

As ID has already said, go with stainless steel. Surgical steel would be even better, but needs more care. Also, be sure to sterilize it as he also said. The irratation may be because of an infection, and not a reaction to the metal.

[Sir_Russell]

Small problem home despot doesn't carry stainless steel chain except in a very large link, damned pet stores carry chokers and say it stainless steel but the label doesn't say that and when pressed they admit they don't know what the hell it is.

[Ocean_Soul]

Russell,

When I'm looking for genuine stainless steel items and not just something that's corrosion resistant and given the name stainless steel for marketing purposes I go to a boating supply store. People with those rather expensive sail boats tend to get a little pissed if their rigging gear starts rusting when they were told it wouldn't. Another advantage is such gear is probably of an alloy to withstand very salty conditions (eg ocean or vagina )

Not saying that all gear there would be what you need but that's where you're most likely to get what you're looking for.

There's a great store where I'm from that I've been to that's very small-townish and personalized. I've bought several rings and clips not to mention a hundred or more feet of soft rope from him. He asked me if I owned a boat and I said no. *grins* It's one of my more favorite shops to go to.

[Logic1]

I have bought lots of stainless steel chains via a wholesaler here in Sweden (not that I used it for bondageplay but rather for anchoring a boat that my friend used to own but nevertheless)
. Hm yeah the only real viable option for insertion would be stainless steel. If you talk to a spe******t (eeh why does the forum censor s.p.e.c.i.a.l.i.s.t) and no I am not talking about those large chains like Home Depot or Bauhaus/Hornbach here in Sweden but rather the specialized hardwarestores with just a few employees. They normally know what the heck they are talking about and can order just about anything you want.
I just love the smaller shops cause they are much more friendly and helpful to whatever need you might have.

[_ID_]

Farming supply stores are also an option. Additionally, check dive shops, as well as hardware supply stores that are on-line.

One of the better places to aquire tools that can be difficult to find is

(**links to commercial sites are not allowed)

In the search field on the left, just begin typing "stainless steel chain" as you type the search results are dynamic and will drill down to your specific request. I checked, they have various sizes and coatings. Everything from the chain for pens at banks, to heavy duty lifting chain.

[Sir_Russell]

Thanks, I have saved the site and will be buying chains from them at least.

[Warbaby1943]

Personally, I have an allergy to nickel. Unfortunately it is a very common filler-metal, and is in just about everything. I have to be very careful about the jewelry I wear.

I also reacted to the metal bits on my first training collar. I was really upset and wore it anyway (despite the itchy red rash) until Master ordered me to put it away (and replaced it with one that didn't bother me).

My guess is it is a reaction to the metal... and apparently nickel is an increasingly common sensitivity. Going with stainless steel sounds good to me as well.

Unfortunately Stainless steel is made of three main alloys, steel, nickel and chromium. The larger the nickel content the better the stainless steel. Might be best to test her for allergies to nickle before investing in stainless chains.

[Ocean_Soul]

Unfortunately Stainless steel is made of three main alloys, steel, nickel and chromium. The larger the nickel content the better the stainless steel. Might be best to test her for allergies to nickle before investing in stainless chains.

I looked into this not too long ago. Apparently stainless steel rarely causes issues with nickel allergies as the nickel is expelled at an extremely low rate.

[Warbaby1943]

I looked into this not too long ago. Apparently stainless steel rarely causes issues with nickel allergies as the nickel is expelled at an extremely low rate.

Hopefully that works for Sir_Russell but stainless does have nickle in it and that is all I was trying to point out.

[_ID_]

I guess my editing of the link posted so it wasn't a hot link wasn't sufficient. So to help those who might come to this since the removal of the link, google McMaster-Carr and you will get what was provided.

*MODS* if providing the name of the site is still a violation please PM me.