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    Master Coyote
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    Tantra, Shibari, and BDSM

    Hi all,

    I'm currently 41 yrs old. My "history" has been off-and-on, with only two real partners before my current lover/slave, min lilla.

    My first lover who took me beyond vanilla sex was an Okinawan woman I met while stationed there in my early twenties. She owned a coffeehouse that I frequented and was in her mid-forties. We continued our relationship for about two years.

    Mariko's "style" was unlike anything I've encountered in the West. There was somewhat of a D/s flavor to our play, but the true focus was on using pain and other intense sensory stimulation to enhance the sexual experience. She introduced and trained me in Shibari, Tantric lovemaking, and stimulation of pressure points using Shiatsu techniques, as well as the more familiar Western BDSM practices.

    Western BDSM, on the other hand, seems to have much more of a focus on psychological Dominance and submission roleplay. I'm not judging, mind you, just pointing out the difference in focus (and perhaps goals, as well). I'll confess, however, that this is why I've not spent much time BDSM community over the years, just jumping in and out of the pool as it suits me.

    While min lilla is most definitely my slave, she chose me because, like her, I'm not much interested in playing out scenes of humiliation and objectification - what I call "dungeon play". Again, NOT JUDGING.

    I sometimes think of her as my apprentice in wickedness; but an apprentice in the manner of the Medieval guilds: as long as she is under my tutelage, I have complete and utter control of her life. That said, it's also my obligation to ensure her health, well-being, and overall education and development.

    Would anyone out there like to explore this topic? I'd also like to know if anyone else has incorporated Tantra and Shiatsu techniques in their BDSM play.

    Looking forward to hearing from all of you!

    "People (aren't) looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive."
    ~ Joseph Campbell

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    (Please be nice to her if you comment. she's new )

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    Pursue the topic?

    Quote Originally Posted by mastercoyote
    Hi all,

    (snip)

    Mariko's "style" was unlike anything I've encountered in the West. There was somewhat of a D/s flavor to our play, but the true focus was on using pain and other intense sensory stimulation to enhance the sexual experience. She introduced and trained me in Shibari, Tantric lovemaking, and stimulation of pressure points using Shiatsu techniques, as well as the more familiar Western BDSM practices.

    (snip)

    Would anyone out there like to explore this topic? I'd also like to know if anyone else has incorporated Tantra and Shiatsu techniques in their BDSM play.

    Looking forward to hearing from all of you!
    "Apprentice in wickedness"--- love the term, as will a few of our more mischievious lady subs around here. They will share it whole-heartedly. Yes.

    I would be most interested in knowing more about this, and learning some of the techniques should you share them.

    Good topic for everybody interested in growing skills.
    :goodpost:
    Proud Master of my Sweet Yellow Rose

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    EnglandCutegirl
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    Hi sirs, I was wondering if the both of you would join me in the Sexual Fantasies?

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    azure_eyes
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    i have heard of such, but have yet to learn about them... could you provide more information about it Sir? i would love to share them with my own Sir!!

    azzie

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    Master Coyote
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    Quote Originally Posted by chksng19
    "Apprentice in wickedness"--- love the term,
    Lol, I was rather proud of that one!
    Quote Originally Posted by chksng19
    I would be most interested in knowing more about this, and learning some of the techniques should you share them.
    Tantra is a form of spiritual meditation that began in India, I believe, using lovemaking techniques to achieve enlightenment. Good times! It's most well-known aspect is in the withholding of orgasm to enhance the experience. The famous Kama Sutra positions are also used.

    I personally have gone for up to six hours without coming OR losing my erection (sometimes going to half-mast). Every fibre of your being becomes one great big erogenous zone at that point, similar to what is felt in Dom- and sub-space.

    Being a "soft" form of lovemaking, Tantric might at first seem to be the polar opposite of BDSM. However, the techniques do lend themselves very well to Shibari and BDSM play.

    Shiatsu massage uses some of the same pressure points found in acupuncture. Often a Shiatsu artisan will apply focused pressure that causes temporary pain, followed immediately by a dramatic relaxation of the muscle group being worked on. Again, useful stuff to know.

    There's tons of stuff on the web if you'd like to know more.

    "People (aren't) looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive."
    ~ Joseph Campbell

    My Journal | My slave's diary
    (Please be nice to her if you comment. she's new )

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    Love to know more

    Quote Originally Posted by mastercoyote
    Tantra is a form of spiritual meditation that began in India, I believe, using lovemaking techniques to achieve enlightenment. Good times! It's most well-known aspect is in the withholding of orgasm to enhance the experience. The famous Kama Sutra positions are also used.

    I personally have gone for up to six hours without coming OR losing my erection (sometimes going to half-mast). Every fibre of your being becomes one great big erogenous zone at that point, similar to what is felt in Dom- and sub-space.

    Being a "soft" form of lovemaking, Tantric might at first seem to be the polar opposite of BDSM. However, the techniques do lend themselves very well to Shibari and BDSM play.

    Shiatsu massage uses some of the same pressure points found in acupuncture. Often a Shiatsu artisan will apply focused pressure that causes temporary pain, followed immediately by a dramatic relaxation of the muscle group being worked on. Again, useful stuff to know.

    There's tons of stuff on the web if you'd like to know more.
    I'd love a list, if you have one handy, of the good ones. On every subject that has to do with Human Sexuality on google or wherever, I find 100 crap sites for every worthwhile one.

    Chksng

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    Master Coyote
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    Quote Originally Posted by chksng19
    I'd love a list, if you have one handy, of the good ones. On every subject that has to do with Human Sexuality on google or wherever, I find 100 crap sites for every worthwhile one.

    Chksng
    I was going to tell you to have your slave do the research, but that would be TOO cruel :P

    Here's a list with some useful info and history, but like yoga or any other philosophy, you'll find the best info in book form. If you get truly involved in it, you might consider hiring a trainer, aka a "Tantric Goddess".

    It's more fun than algebra, tho.

    HERE-NOW4U C. Geerdes THE KAMASUTRA of VATSYAYANA
    History of Sex Ancient India
    Kama Sutra - Love teachings of the Kama Sutra.
    Kama Sutra Online from Tantra At Tahoe
    My Dakini Yoga of Ecstasy
    Tantra Kama Sutra Tantric Sex
    Tantra Magazine.
    Tantric philosophy explained
    Teaching Tantra, sexual enlightenment, multiple orgasm
    The Sex Project The Kama Sutra 1

    "People (aren't) looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive."
    ~ Joseph Campbell

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    (Please be nice to her if you comment. she's new )

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    I've been doing a blend of shibari and tantra for years.

    I've always considered it to be a "slow burn" kind of loving as opposed to the "flash" of BDSM.

    The blend to me is a way of keeping pleasure alive for a very long time. While I have not personally hit the six hour mark, I have made it well beyond three. I know my dorei loves those sessions where the shibari is in a kind of free flow zen space while we're both at that plateau before the final orgasm.

    Just to clarify... I'm calling BDSM sex more of a flash, because in the way I've done it over the years, it seems more like I'm ripping orgasms from my girl, rather than letting her simmer for a good long time.

    Of course, you have to know your ropes, and both your bodies well to do it.
    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Dr. Seuss

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