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    is love enough

    i am curious if "love" is enough to keep a D/s, Ms relationship going strong? If, not why?

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    I am not entirely sure I understand the question.

    What do you mean is it enough, what else is going on along side the life to qualify this?

    Are you saying if EVERYTHING sucks, but you still love each other is that enough?
    At least two-thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity: idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religous or political ideas.

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    i hope this will explain better about the question

    @ Archeon Sir to me i love my Master very much and would do anything for my Master, but Master says that love is one of the most dangerous aspects to a D/s M/s relationship. In fact, Master knows many D/s M/s that prefer to keep romantic love out of the relationship with me i am a very romantic at heart

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    It really depends on the people involved in a relationship.

    Love and Lust can get very crossed. Some people will feel like they are in love, but are confusing it with lust, and some will feel they are only in lust with someone, when they are really in love.

    Where your master says that love can be dangerous to an M/s D/s dynamic is when a Dominant who exercises their sadistic inclinations on someone they are not in love with. The problem starts when they fall in love, and then can no longer harm the loved one because they have a conflict with wanting to protect cherish and build up their partner and wanting to hurt and humiliate their partner.

    This conflict is a problem unless they are able to reconcile it. If they can't, either the SM side of the relationship will fall by the wayside, or the love will. Sometimes the Dominant will end the relationship due to this inner conflict. It usually leaves the submissive confused and hurt, thinking they did something wrong.

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    To me a M/s relationship is still a relationship between two people, and personally I would not want that without love.
    At least two-thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity: idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religous or political ideas.

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    Some say love is a weakness, my Owner and I believe it is a couples greatest strength, bdsm or otherwise.
    When love beckons to you, follow him,Though his ways are hard and steep. And when his wings enfold you yield to him, Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound thee
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    very well said, all of you. it touched my heart. and good luck singletaillover!

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    Is love preferable? For me it is. But as to the original question, I don't think it's enough to make any relationship work, really, except maybe family (but I think even that isn't very true, because keeping a family connected or "together" is just as hard as any other relationship. And, just like any relationship, sometimes just because you love eachother doesn't mean it's healthy or good).

    (Healthy) relationships take work, communication, trust, lots of other things that help foster and sustain the love.
    Live and let die.

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    I completely agree with pervertedpages. Love is very important, but it is not enough to sustain a relationship. Perfect love would be, but nobody can really attain perfect love because we are not perfect people *imho*. A relationship is a lot of work. Love is what keeps you from killing each other and is what keeps both people together. But that's bare minimum. You also need trust, respect, courtesy, perseverence, the ability to sacrifice things if it will better your partner in some way...there are a lot of things I probably should list but just can't think of right now. I am not in a bdsm relationship like most of you are; I am learning and beginning to try things...but I am not sure that there is a whole lot of difference. It seems to me that a vanilla relationship and D/s or M/s relationship will all have the same basic components; that the only difference is in the roles each person takes on.

    And I agree with denuseri: love is the strength that keeps a relationship tied together, but if all a relationship has is love, without all the other important components like trust and stuff I mentioned earlier, I do not know how that love would be enough to sustain the relationship for a long amount of time without any resentment.

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