My new sub is a married woman!

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11-02-2011
Badwolfe

My new sub is a married woman!

Recently took on a new sub. She likes lots of attention and asked me one day about roleplaying. Told her some of the basics and that to me it wasn't playing in fact it was a way of life and that I just recently started using bdsm terminology. I have always been controlling and demanding of the ones around me but for some reason just started reading a lot of bdsm literature and learned that there was a term for what I was doing. After knowing her for about 5 years she asked if she could be my slave. My response was no , she didn't know what she was asking. Sh keep on insisting that she did. 8 months ago my gf/sub for 7 years moved. So 4 months ago I told my new married sub that we can have a trial run, funny thing her husband actually asked me to be her MASTER.She is great most of the time eager to please and very few limits. Every test I gave her she completed. Little hesitation at first now anything I ask she does. Now the interesting thing, she is really into this and so am I. Hubby is wanting her to stop, she doesn't want to. Just found out that she told him it stopped 2 months ago. Now I have a dilemma, stop and lose a great sub or act on some of my darker thoughts. He has been trying to get her to peg him, and eventually have her watch him suck a man off. The latter part I couldn't do, not into guys but have friends that are. Huge moral dilemma ahhhh have fun while it lasts or make it last.
11-04-2011
denuseri

One would think, that it is a basic question of consent.

The husband although not physically active with you personally was informed and was consenting up to a point yes?

Now she wishes to continue the relationship (despite the husband having revoked his consent) sans honor effectively cheating on him and making you an accomplice?
11-04-2011
Micaela17

Well, in my opinion, the first thing that needs to be addressed is that she was lying to both of you. She told the husband it stopped, and told you that he still gave her consent for the two months? Correct?
if that is true, then you need to decide if a) you are okay with being lied to about something like consent and B) if you are willing (like Denuseri said) to continue this relationship with her behind the husbands back and without his consent. Like i said, just my opinion. but morals and trust would play a big part in this for me.
11-05-2011
Badwolfe

I know what the "Right thing to do" is, but have a little voice in my head, " Go on, keep her she's a good slave. You can correct her for lying, besides the husband is weak. Have her indulge his fantasies and drop hints that you know."
Of course I won't or shouldn't do it, but it is good to ponder on things. Believe one more session is in order as a send off/Corrective action for her indiscretions. DONT BULLSHIT A BULLSHITER.
11-16-2011
DontFWM

It looks to me as if hubby feels he has lost his woman to her Master....And of course he has..But then it sounds as if hubby wants to be owned as well...I understand that your not interested in him..Neither would I be ,but what a marvelous oppertunity to get them BOTH into your fold...The marvelous tasks to given to them both,either as indeviduals or as a team..Of course they would both have to be taught about the pitfalls of dishonesty...Think about it...
11-21-2011
Oldskool454

Personally I would cut her off, most likely this will have the reverse effect for a while and she will freak out and try to stay involved with you but in time she needs to sort out what is going on in her own house.
I choose to imagine what I would do if I was in the husband's situation (not that I would ever LET it get to this point), but I know I would not want someone like me out there with a grudge, wondering if he was going to square things up. People do some crazy shit for love, is some freaky S&M worth you safety and well being?
11-21-2011
fantazmaster

Ah yes, Badwolfe,I am afraid you are seeing that paradox of many lifestyle relationships,whereby the Sub is actually dominating things from the bottom.In this instance we have her in control of information by telling her husband a lie.Plus it is a bit of a control element for her,that she approached you with starting this relationship with her to begin with.Better watch your step,as this one sounds like an accomplished manipulator,one who likes nothing more than playing both ends against the middle,as we appear to see,based on the info you have shared here.
11-22-2011
MstrJake

In the Stories Archive, the Master would "know" about the slaves lame attempt at deception and punish her, and maybe or maybe not incorporate the husband into some part of the story. So what if you demanded of the slave a full and honest accounting of what is really going on, what she really wants, what she has said that wasn't true to her Master and her husband. And then assigned an appropriate punishment or task, depending on the nature of the relationship. And what if you demanded that she tell her husband the same things. And then what if you demanded that she have her husband answer the same questions. I don't have any interest in Domming a man, but if that is what it takes to control a slave, I might at least consider it. Just an idea; dumping her is a good choice too.
11-24-2011
thir

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Originally Posted by MstrJake

In the Stories Archive, the Master would "know" about the slaves lame attempt at deception and punish her, and maybe or maybe not incorporate the husband into some part of the story. So what if you demanded of the slave a full and honest accounting of what is really going on, what she really wants, what she has said that wasn't true to her Master and her husband. And then assigned an appropriate punishment or task, depending on the nature of the relationship. And what if you demanded that she tell her husband the same things. And then what if you demanded that she have her husband answer the same questions. I don't have any interest in Domming a man, but if that is what it takes to control a slave, I might at least consider it. Just an idea; dumping her is a good choice too.

Problem is, what stops her from continuing lying? It would all be a face-saving fantasy of control.

It is hard to advice others, but my thoughts would be either let her go, trust and honesty is neccesary in any relationship.
But if not, talk all three together, and see if you can figure it out.
12-11-2011
scarlet_85

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Originally Posted by fantazmaster

Ah yes, Badwolfe,I am afraid you are seeing that paradox of many lifestyle relationships,whereby the Sub is actually dominating things from the bottom.In this instance we have her in control of information by telling her husband a lie.Plus it is a bit of a control element for her,that she approached you with starting this relationship with her to begin with.Better watch your step,as this one sounds like an accomplished manipulator,one who likes nothing more than playing both ends against the middle,as we appear to see,based on the info you have shared here.

Honestly, I could not agree with this more! Well said and kudos! It seems like a vicious circle of playing dirty and honestly sounds like it may not stop. I now question the validity of anything she may be saying. If, for two months, she allowed a game of manipulation before saying anything, how many other things have been said that carry deceit? It seems to me that maybe you just need to cut ties before it completely gets out if hand. I would have stopped it as soon as the husband withdrew consent. Mainly for respect and for morals. BDSM requires honesty and respect along with communication and trust. I feel she has betrayed all of that. I hope it all turns out for the best... Before something stupid happens.